Talk:Malá Fatra

Requested move

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Lesser Fatra → Malá Fatra

This move was previously made by User:Svetovid without discussion and is likely controversial based on the discussion at Talk:Greater Fatra. —  AjaxSmack  04:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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• Oppose per WP:UE and arguments presented at Talk:Greater Fatra. —  AjaxSmack  04:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose, my objections are summarized at Talk:Greater Fatra. Just shortly: there seem to be no objections to most Slovak ranges being under their English names, why to move just these three (also concerns the Greater Fatra and the Slovak Ore Mountains). – Caroig (talk) 06:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak oppose per reasons presented here. KissL 09:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose per Talk:Greater Fatra; the issue is exactly the same. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose, as per all above. – Axman (☏) 14:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose. The English name is more familiar to English speakers. – Marco79 12:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 05:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Move?

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 22:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Lesser Fatra → Mala Fatra –

• The name "Malá Fatra" is a literal and should not be translated. If a translation is necessary regardless, "Little Fatra" or "Small Fatra" are more accurate. Edomatus (talk) 10:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
• Needs a discussion. This was controversial in 2007 when similar move proposals were rejected. See Talk:Lesser Fatra#Requested move and Talk:Greater Fatra#Requested move. Google shows that 'Lesser Fatra' is a name that's in use outside Wikipedia. If this page were moved as you suggest, presumably Greater Fatra should move as well? EdJohnston (talk) 21:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

also:

Greater Fatra → Veľká Fatra –

• comment: perhaps we should 'go all the way', adopt the diacritics and all, and move it to "Malá Fatra". -- Ohconfucius ^{ping / poke} 13:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
• Support with diacritics: It looks like Ohconfucius is nearer to common useage in English in this case. An advanced Google search for "Malá Fatra" in English language sources excluding "Wikipedia" over the last year shows 3,150 hits (page through to the last entry, and you actually get 479 unduplicated hits). A similar search for "Lesser Fatra" produces just 82 hits (page through to the last result and it's actually 69 unduplicated hits). Although neither is exactly widely used in English, the Slovak language version gets 87 per cent of the hits, and now seems to be firmly established. Skinsmoke (talk) 05:34, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
• Support both Malá Fatra and Veľká Fatra - per OhConfucius, Skinsmoke. Also "Greater Fatra (also Great Fatra) or Veľká Fatra" shows the English doesn't have a stable/familiar form, meaning the mountains aren't notable enough for an exonym in English. Same for Little Fatra vs Lesser Fatra. Might as well go with Lonely Planet and co. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
• Support for both with diacritics: If this moves, then Veľká Fatra should be moved too. Using the name with diacritics is IMO a good idea.Edomatus (talk) 16:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
• Support for both with diacritics. The original names are more widely used than their literal translations. - Darwinek (talk) 13:54, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

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