Talk:Language production

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It looks like there is some vandalism at the end of this article, but I'm not sure what it's supposed to be. Actually, looking at the history it just looks like it was poorly transcribed from another source? Seems there is a lack of citation as well. 128.239.218.196 07:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Mark Johnson[reply]

Information on the language production page is somehow misleading and incomplete

Hi,

I have added some information to the language processing but it seems, someone has reverted back, before I finalize.

Here are the issues:

1. It seems distinction between language production models are not clearly presented

1.1 Serial theories and interactive theories only differs in their between-level processing, one way or two way

1.2 Serial theories are also connectionist,

1.3 Level of interactivity between levels creates a difference between interactive theories MacKay's node structure theory and Dell's spreading activation

1.4 They assume differently organized lexicon for their theories, as Levelt includes grammatical encoding with lexical access, whereas Dell separates lexicon from syntactic processing.

2. Dell's theory, or connectionist model does not explain anything and misleading

2.1 Dell's theory uses a frame and slot approach and creations of frames are serial but slot filling is parallel. A frame is a syntactic structure that is created by formation rules with many empty slots like "Subject Verb Object" for "This is cat" And the parallel processing is for the slot fillings, for filling the each slot from lexicon.

2.2 Another difference from Levelt's theory is that, production in other levels does not wait for completion, but upon filling a slot triggers creation of new frame for sub level processing, thus levels of processing also goes in parallel

2.3 Also mentioned processes are generic for each theory and does not explain the difference.

By the way lets first discuss with the reverted before making anymore changes on this article

Perseveration example appears to be wrong

Description: The word retains characteristics of a word said previously in a sentence Example: Taddle Tennis instead of Paddle Tennis

The description is of a previous word affecting a later word, but the example is of a later word affecting a previous word.

It seems likely that the example is wrong, but it's also possible that the description is wrong or incomplete. Adsllc (talk) 13:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the example for perseveration and some of the other speech errors mentioned so that they match the definitions given. I also updated the formatting so that all of the examples have the same type of formatting.Cw1120 (talk) 15:38, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking for extra sources and extra info

Clark, Brady. “The Evolvability of Words: On the Nature of Lexical Items in Minimalism.” Frontiers in psychology vol. 10 3071. 24 Jan. 2020, doi:10.3389/fpsyg.2019.03071

this source could add information on "syntactic component of the language faculty to the cognitive systems that humans use for sound and gesture" could go under the stages of production section — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drgolds (talk • contribs) 23:39, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I think that this source could add more information to the production stages section. I think that particularly the section within the article titled "The Structure of Lexical Entries" will help, since it will give some information about how the lexical part of the language system is structured. Cw1120 (talk) 13:11, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adding information (with sources) to sections

Hi! It looks like the sections for this article are great and highlight key points of this topic, but I would like to add some information that is missing from some of these sections. For example, I would like to revise the research section to include more information about the other types of production research outside of speech error analysis. Once some more information has been added, I would also like to work on the lead section so that the information there is more representative of the information in the body of the article. Here are some of the sources I have found to help me with these revisions:

For adding to research and multilingualism sections: Brown-Schmidt, Sarah, and Agnieszka E. Konopka. “Little Houses and Casas Pequeñas: Message Formulation and Syntactic Form in Unscripted Speech with Speakers of English and Spanish.” Cognition, vol. 109, no. 2, 2008, pp. 274–280., doi:10.1016/j.cognition.2008.07.011.

For adding to access models section: Dell, Gary S., et al. “Language Production and Serial Order: A Functional Analysis and a Model.” Psychological Review, vol. 104, no. 1, 1997, pp. 123–147., doi:10.1037/0033-295x.104.1.123.

For adding to access models and research sections: Lee, Eun-Kyung, et al. “Ways of Looking Ahead: Hierarchical Planning in Language Production.” Cognition, vol. 129, no. 3, 2013, pp. 544–562., doi:10.1016/j.cognition.2013.08.007.

Please let me know what you think, I look forward to working on revising this article! Cw1120 (talk) 12:57, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]