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Merge with Lake Tauca?

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To merge Lake Minchin and Lake Escara to Lake Tauca given overlap in the discussion and confusion between terms (best discussed in one place). Klbrain (talk) 10:25, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it's time for me to stop procrastinating on this. The Lake Minchin article has a problem: The definition of "Lake Minchin" vs "Lake Tauca" has changed over time from "early high lake stage" to "early low lake stage" and because of this many sources that discuss "Lake Minchin" as the highest lake stage are actually talking about Lake Tauca (and vice versa) and the article here does kind of mix them up. C.f from Lake Tauca Although the preceding paleolake (Minchin) was probably shallower,[1][2] there is disagreement about the methods used to ascertain water depth.[3] Some consider Minchin the larger lake;[4] a 1985 paper estimated its size at 63,000 square kilometres (24,000 sq mi), compared with Tauca's 43,000 square kilometres (17,000 sq mi).[5] Confusion may have resulted from the incorrect attribution of Tauca's shorelines to Lake Minchin;[6] a shoreline at 3,760 metres (12,340 ft) formerly attributed to Lake Minchin was dated to the Tauca phase at 13,790 BP.[7] I think one possible fix for this would be to merge Lake Minchin (and perhaps Lake Escara?) into Lake Tauca and discuss all aspects in one lake article, so that we don't have to guess whether someone was meaning the "old" lake stage or the "high" lake stage if they are discussing "Minchin". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:54, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can't help but agree that merging them is a good idea since I have literally just had the issue you described in my group project, on the Salars in the region. Don't know how you would do that though. Handeth (talk) 08:02, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oooh! Do you perhaps have contact with experts on the former lakes of the region? Their input might be very useful. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:19, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
support the merge idea. When terms are as confusing at these, it's helpful to have them in one article to compare & contrast them. Joyous! | Talk 05:20, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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  • Chepstow-Lusty, Alex; Bush, Mark B.; Frogley, Michael R.; Baker, Paul A.; Fritz, Sherilyn C.; Aronson, James (January 2005). "Vegetation and climate change on the Bolivian Altiplano between 108,000 and 18,000 yr ago". Quaternary Research. 63 (1): 90–98. Bibcode:2005QuRes..63...90C. doi:10.1016/j.yqres.2004.09.008. S2CID 140745675.
  • Blodgett, Troy A.; Isacks, Bryan L.; Lenters, John D. (January 1997). "Constraints on the Origin of Paleolake Expansions in the Central Andes". Earth Interactions. 1 (1): 1–28. Bibcode:1997EaInt...1a...1B. doi:10.1175/1087-3562(1997)001<0001:COTOOP>2.3.CO;2. S2CID 2713642.
  • Clayton, Jamie D.; Clapperton, Chalmers M. (May 1997). "Broad synchrony of a Late-glacial glacier advance and the highstand of palaeolake Tauca in the Bolivian Altiplano". Journal of Quaternary Science. 12 (3): 169–182. Bibcode:1997JQS....12..169C. doi:10.1002/(SICI)1099-1417(199705/06)12:3<169::AID-JQS304>3.0.CO;2-S.
  • Hastenrath, Stefan; Kutzbach, John (November 1985). "Late Pleistocene climate and water budget of the south American Altiplano". Quaternary Research. 24 (3): 249–256. Bibcode:1985QuRes..24..249H. doi:10.1016/0033-5894(85)90048-1.
  • McPhillips, Devin; Bierman, Paul R.; Crocker, Thomas; Rood, Dylan H. (December 2013). "Landscape response to Pleistocene-Holocene precipitation change in the Western Cordillera, Peru: Be concentrations in modern sediments and terrace fills". Journal of Geophysical Research: Earth Surface. 118 (4): 2488–2499. Bibcode:2013JGRF..118.2488M. doi:10.1002/2013JF002837. hdl:10044/1/40590.
  • Rouchy, Jean Marie; Servant, Michel; Fournier, Marc; Causse, Christiane (December 1996). "Extensive carbonate algal bioherms in upper Pleistocene saline lakes of the central Altiplano of Bolivia". Sedimentology. 43 (6): 973–993. Bibcode:1996Sedim..43..973R. doi:10.1111/j.1365-3091.1996.tb01514.x.
I'll take care of this in the next weeks, I hope. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 21:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Chepstow-Lusty et al. 2005, p. 96.
  2. ^ Rouchy et al. 1996, p. 990.
  3. ^ McPhillips et al. 2013, p. 2492.
  4. ^ Bills, Bruce G.; de Silva, Shanaka L.; Currey, Donald R.; Emenger, Robert S.; Lillquist, Karl D.; Donnellan, Andrea; Worden, Bruce (15 February 1994). "Hydro-isostatic deflection and tectonic tilting in the central Andes: Initial results of a GPS survey of Lake Minchin shorelines". Geophysical Research Letters. 21 (4): 293–296. Bibcode:1994GeoRL..21..293B. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.528.1524. doi:10.1029/93GL03544.
  5. ^ Hastenrath & Kutzbach 1985, p. 250.
  6. ^ Clayton & Clapperton 1997, p. 180.
  7. ^ Blodgett, Isacks & Lenters 1997, p. 2.
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