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Requested move 17 February 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

– Move the two articles to disambiguated titles in sentence case (Proper nouns are not capitalised in French) and retarget La Révolution Française and all capitalisation variants to the primary topic of French Revolution. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:48, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I'd like to see some evidence of what the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is for "La Révolution française" before I change my temporary "Maybe" vote to something concrete. Mathglot (talk) 08:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A search in Google Books (from the UK) shows over the first few pages no results for the film or rock opera, and most results for the French Revolution. A search in Google Scholar (from the UK) shows over the first few pages no results for the film or rock opera, and most results for the French Revolution, with some results for the phrase used in general terms or an idiomatic way for a revolution in France. The first few pages of a plain Google search (from the UK) is overwhelmingly about the French Revolution or a connected idiomatic use, with some mention of the film. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing what you do. A plain Google search returns mostly web pages and videos about the film (and one about the rock opera), including iMDB, Amazon, various YT sites with people commenting on the film. On the FR topic itself, we have one Brittanica article about a book by Jules Micehelet, one professeur de lycee with an accompanying web site, and a general article about the FR by a coin company.
top ten web results for "La Revolution francaise" -wikipedia

For this query, we get these ten results:

Note: repeating the same query on different browsers sometimes changes the order of a couple of results, adds or drops a video in the bunched result #5, or adds a new Brittanica result, but doesn't affect the overall mix of results.

I haven't tried books, yet, and likely their results will be different for a number of reasons, including the minimum 40-book threshold, which will likely favor the historical French Revolution over a film. How to give proper weight to disparate results in books and web results is an interesting question. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 01:57, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mathglot: Yes, that is interesting! I think I'd resolve it by asking the man on the Clapham omnibus. In my imagination he talks about the guillotine, not the rock opera. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So my question is, how much WP:WEIGHT should we give to what the man on the Clapham omnibus says, or rather, what he says in your imagination, versus what the data found in reliable sources in web and other searches has to say? In my imagination, the man on the Clapham omnibus says, "show me the search result data". But, I could be wrong. Mathglot (talk) 07:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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