Talk:Kucja Valley
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Mass grave can be mentioned on this article, but not so extensively. Example: Livestock refused to drink from the nearby spring in Podutik and local people noticed that the color and taste of the water had changed. Livestock has nothing to do with Kucja valley, cause it was not grazing here, nether the water it drink came from this valley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grabyton (talk • contribs) 17:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- If you believe that the graves are not in the Kucja Valley, please explain why. If you believe that the graves deserve a separate article, you are welcome to create one. Doremo (talk) 18:54, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Please read carefully what I already wrote and do not repeat the topic. I have to use copy paste:
1.Problem is not mass grave, problem is the content under this paragraph that has nothing to do with Kucja Valley.Example: Livestock refused to drink from the nearby spring in Podutik and local people noticed that the color and taste of the water had changed. Livestock has nothing to do with Kucja valley, cause it was not grazing here, nether the water it drink came from this valley.
2.Brezar shaft is not in Kucja Valley but near Glince. Look at the map. Photo of shaft must be deleted from this article.--Grabyton (talk) 11:50, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]The following sourced historical material (+ 2 images) was deleted from this article without consensus. I suggest that it be restored:
| ==Mass graves==
The Kucja Valley is the location of two sites connected with extrajudicial killings after the Second World War: the Big Brezar Shaft Mass Grave (Slovene: Grobišče Veliko Brezarjevo brezno) and the Kucja Valley Mass Grave (Slovene: Grobišče v Kucji dolini). At the end of May 1945 over 800 people were killed and their bodies were thrown into the Big Brezar Shaft.[1][2] The victims were a mix of Slovenian and Croatian prisoners of war from the St. Stanislaus Institute in nearby Šentvid (which was being used as an internment center by the Partisans)[3] and civilians, including women.[4][5] The large number of bodies poisoned the groundwater in the area. Livestock refused to drink from the nearby spring in Podutik and local people noticed that the color and taste of the water had changed. Because of increasing talk among the local population, the communist authorities first tried to block the connection between the Big Brezar Shaft and the spring with a concrete barrier.[5] German POWs were then forced to remove the bodies from the shaft on 12 and 13 June 1945 and bury them in the nearby mass grave at the head of the Kucja Valley.[2][4] After this the German POWs were executed and buried together with the bodies they had moved.[5] |
Doremo (talk) 03:05, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ Dežman, Jože. 2009. Poročilo Komisije vlade Republike Slovenije za reševanje vprašanj prikritih grobišč: 2005-2008. Ljubljana: Družina.
- ^ a b Ferenc, Mitja, & Ksenija Kovačec-Naglič. 2005. Prikrito in očem zakrito: prikrita grobišča 60 let po koncu druge svetovne vojne. Celje: Muzej novejše zgodovine Celje, p. 73.
- ^ Big Brezar Shaft Mass Grave on Geopedia (in Slovene)
- ^ a b Kucja Valley Mass Grave on Geopedia (in Slovene)
- ^ a b c Matija Škerbec. 1957. Krivda rdeče fronte. Cleveland: Author, pp. 25, 128. (in Slovene)