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[edit]Hi Doremo - I realise this refers to a fairly old (2019) edit, but when writing on obvious European topics with obvious English references, please do not change the character of the page by adding American spelling "sp=us" in conversion templates, as you did here. English spellings ('metre', etc.) are the norm throughout Europe, not American ('meter', etc.), so English should be used, per MOS:TIES and MOS:CONSISTENT. I've changed that instance to "abbr=on" to avoid this faux pas, but could you check for any others, please. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 15:55, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is not correct. MOS:TIES applies only to English-speaking countries (Dianthus carthusianorum has no tie to an English-speaking country), and MOS:CONSISTENT does not apply (the article's language variety is undefined). Doremo (talk) 16:51, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that's not true; English is very widely used as a second langauge in the EU and is an official language of the EU; and the version used is English, not American. So it does apply, as the species is widespread in several EU countries. - MPF (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please read MOS:TIES. Doremo (talk) 18:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- That is debatable; as I mentioned, European Union usage is English, not American. That should be respected, too. But I will turn it round: why did you breach what you thought was the article's MOS:COMMONALITY by deliberately and unnecessarily adding American spelling to a page that you thought was undefined Engvar, to a topic to which American has zero relevance? It isn't an American plant, that it should be written about in American.
- But also, although I had largely written the first post-stub version (in 2007) in common language, it turns out I had not entirely done so: I used the term 'altitude' as the English textbooks I was using as references did, and as I normally would as a native-born English speaker. I had wondered why you made the odd change of 'altitude' to 'elevation', and did a search for differences in meaning. The only sites I could find that supported your change (e.g. here) are coming from an American viewpoint; in regular English, 'altitude' is correct in this situation. And thus, the page was actually written in English, not American. - MPF (talk) 20:54, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- No. If you'd like to propose a change to MOS policy, please take your comments to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. Doremo (talk) 02:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please read MOS:TIES. Doremo (talk) 18:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that's not true; English is very widely used as a second langauge in the EU and is an official language of the EU; and the version used is English, not American. So it does apply, as the species is widespread in several EU countries. - MPF (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, the original Slovenian article in 2006 used dmy dates, as is normal in Europe. That is why I changed the English version. Regards Denisarona (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello; thank you for your interest in the article. It is irrelevant what format a WP article in another language uses. Per MOS:RETAIN and MOS:DATERET, the established variety or format used by the English article should be maintained, and an article should not be edited simply to switch from one variety of English or format to another. Doremo (talk) 14:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Most sources say it is 163.8 km2, but the infobox says it is 165 km2. This doesn't make a lot of sense, given that 165 is a pretty random number 2601:280:5081:D140:CAD3:4035:A635:2D2 (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Corrected per the data at the Statistical Office of the Republic of Slovenia. Doremo (talk) 02:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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