Talk:Kerkouane

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"but the best parts should be discovered by now"

Do you mean it has mostly been uncovered at this point? Is this necessary to say?

Sid

Under Excavations, a deity called Sid is mentioned, but it links to a disambiguation page. I can't find anything about this Sid. Does anyone know who/what it refers to? Lennart97 (talk) 13:34, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Lennart97: I have created a page about Sid in Italian Wikipedia [Sid]. These are the only informazioni that I have. BandiniRaffaele2 (talk) 14:07, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BandiniRaffaele2: Grazie! The identification of this deity with Sardus Pater agrees with Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Phoenicia#A god called Sid where I brought the issue up, because of that the mention of Sid in this article now links to Sardus Pater. Lennart97 (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lennart97: Thank you! I have found some other informations about Sid and I have added them to the Italian page. Now I am going to add these informations in the English Wikipedia.--BandiniRaffaele2 (talk) 14:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is the page, can you help me by adding the references, because I'm not able to?--BandiniRaffaele2 (talk) 14:55, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry for the late reply, apparently someone moved the article to draftspace, it's now at Draft:Sid (deity). What do you need help with specifically? Using {{cite book}} should work if you want to add the sources that you used on the Italian article. Lennart97 (talk) 15:07, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Krahmalkov's Phoenician-Punic dictionary says the god is "attested frequently but exclusively in personal names save perhaps in the binomial ṣdmbʿl. Examples cityed are Benz p 398 in personal names such as grṣd "fearer of Sid", ʿbdṣd "servant of Sid", ṣdytn = Sidiathones "Sid grant!" et passim. He also points to the Dictionnaire de la Civilisation Phenicienne et Punique which says that Sid is a deity probably of Phoenician origin, attested in theophoric names from 7th century (BCE?) Syria-Palestine, later in Egypt, in Sardinia and especially Carthage and in the Roman era as Sidiathones. Apparently he was a worshipped in Sardinia between the 5th and 2nd centuries (presumably BCE), but the inscriptions don't let us deduce his nature (although it then goes on to say he was a warlike god because of associations in some inscriptions with certain other deities). It suggests that he may have been a hunter, as his name seems identical to the Semitic root for wild game. He seems to have been especially important in Sardinia, and been popular with high-ranking dedicants like suffetes. He is referred to with the epithets ʾdr "powerful", bʾby (which it says is difficult to interpret, possibly coming from a place name, or an indigenous Sardinian word for father or ancestor). There are no certain depictions of Sid, but on the basis of this epithet (interpreted as a Sardinian word for ancestor) depictions of Sardus Pater (a Roman name for a founder deity of the Sardinians) are often attributed to Sid by many authors despite the lack of specific evidence. In Carthage his cult is attested only in insciptions no earlier than the 4th century BCE. He's often been associated with either Tanit or Melqart. Tristanjlroberts (talk) 12:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Importance of Kerkouane

I cant seen to verify the importance of this site in the Punic world. It was relatively small, approximately 1,200 population, and was not a major trading port, nor producer. It was involved in the production of garum and purple dye, but not a major one due to its size, and

it's complete absence from surviving historical sources doesn't lead me to believe it was particularly important. 2001:569:719F:A900:60BE:203:1FE4:B6FA (talk) 21:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]