Talk:Kansas City Chiefs/Archive 1
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Improvement drive
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Club?
Do we have to list the description of the Chiefs as the "Kansas Chiefs american football club is a National Football League team"?
A) That sounds awful.
B) We don't call them clubs. It's just team. The Kansas City Chiefs are a National Football League team, that's fine to me.
- I agree with you, expect this is an INTERNATIONAL encyclopedia, so "professional American football team" needs to be worked in somehow. What do you suggest? Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- We don't need to write for the dumbest 10% of the world. Simply stating that the Chiefs are an NFL team is enough. If the reader is clueless about NFL, they can click on it and find out that it is an American sports leagure that plays American football. --Kainaw (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- From Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#State the obvious: "State facts which may be obvious to you, but are not necessarily obvious to the reader." Zzyzx11 (Talk) 16:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- We don't need to write for the dumbest 10% of the world. Simply stating that the Chiefs are an NFL team is enough. If the reader is clueless about NFL, they can click on it and find out that it is an American sports leagure that plays American football. --Kainaw (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, but there is a point at which you are going too far. Should we restate it as: "Kansas City, a city in Missouri, which is a state, which is a political entity, of the United States of America, a country in North America, which is a continent in the Western Hemisphere of Earth, a planet in the Solar System... Chiefs is an American (as in United States of America, not North America, Central Americs, or South America in general) Football team (a collection of people participating together in a sport - a physical activity governed by a set of rules)..."
- My point is that by linking National Football League, it is not hidden that this is an American football team. --Kainaw (talk) 17:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- For your information: right now I have modeled the first two sentences after the first two sentences of Arsenal F.C., which is currently the only sports team article to be named as a Wikipedia featured article. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 18:13, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- I like the opening as it is now. I don't like the "Kansas Chiefs american football club is a National Football League team". As mentioned before, it is a hard read. --Kainaw (talk) 18:31, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
It looks like someone was nice enough to edit the pages to reflect how we call them 'teams,' however, it is not really clear that the National Football League is the big organization the Chiefs are a part of. The AFC and AFC West are what the Chiefs are in, but the sentence makes those areas look nearly as important as the NFL. I don't really know how to resolve this.
Rock And Roll Part 2 - the plan, and the reality.
RE: the saga as stated under "Game Day Traditions" regarding Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll Part 2" being played after Chiefs touchdowns during home games. All that is stated is true and documented... however, I was juat at the preseason game tonight, and after a KC touchdown, they played "Rock and Roll Part 2". Now, it wasn't the Gary Glitter performed version, but rather a cover, played with a bit harder rock feel. No, I have no idea who performed it. Anyways, a brief search doesn't uncover any documentation, nor any future statement about if they're going to keep this version or what. Furthermore, I think my own experience doesn't fit under the guidelines for documentation here. So, first one to document and add wins, I guess. --Reverend Loki 06:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hey, I finally found the documentation! Added to article. --Reverend Loki 23:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm a Season Ticket holder and I'm pretty sure the song is performed by the Pack band or Touchdown Pack band..something like that..anyways I think they are the ones that perform the song when we score. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.129.250.25 (talk) 05:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Warpaint?
If memory serves correctly, Warpaint and Charlie-O for the Kansas City Athletics were originally gifts from Stuart Symington. I can't find any references although I think I remember signs saying as much at Municipal and reading articles about them. Any help tracking this down would be appreciated. Warpaint is notable and probably deserves an article too. Americasroof 08:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Requested Move affecting this article
Editors at Chiefs (Super rugby franchise), a New Zealand rugby team, have proposed that article be moved to the generic Chiefs. Currently, Chiefs redirects to Chief, a disambiguation page. If the move request passes, finding this page might become more difficult. You can contribute to the dicussion at Talk:Chiefs (Super rugby franchise). -Anþony (talk) 06:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Just wanted to point out, since it hasn't been mentioned yet, that the request for a move of that article has been shot down. Consensus is that Chiefs will continue to redirect to the disambiguation page Chief. --Reverend Loki 20:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Lamar Hunt's Death a Tragedy?
Lamar Hunt's death wasn't that tragic. He died from complications from cancer. The tragedy section is supposed to show sudden and unusual deaths. There were several reports stating Hunt was dying. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.13.57.221 (talk) 20:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC). I agree that Lamar Hunt's death was not "tragic" but it was still a great loss to Kansas City and Lamar Hunt will be missed dearly. BrandiniTheGreat 01:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
2006 Season
I added the part of the article that talks about the '06 season. If anyone has any questions, just ask, and feel free to add on to what I wrote. BrandiniTheGreat 02:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Alternative Uniforms?
Recently, someone added info about an alternative uniform that was primarily black, and referenced here for a source. I looked around for a more reliable source than a storefront (yes, even though it's the "official" store), but found none, so I'm calling this one as false. I've seen those black, gold, and even the pink jerseys they made for breast cancer awareness all billed as "replica alternate jerseys". I just can't see them taking the field in pink, no matter how good the cause. So, anyone have a source contradicting me? --Reverend Loki 21:41, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
The article list the alternate uniforms as 2006-present. This is true but they also used those same uniforms as there away jerseys. They ended this in 2000 during Gunther Cunningham second season as head coach. I would add this but I do not know when they started the all white away uniforms. Natural number is e 01:17, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
They started the white-on-white away uniforms in 1989 when Marty arrived. And that is the reason they were brought back in 1999 after Marty resigned. NeelyCrenshaw 02:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- So lets let history be history Natural number is e 05:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
The white vs. color issue is a little bit more complicated than all this. For one, the "alternate" all-white uniform was only used for certain games in the 2006 season and playoffs; to my knowledge, it hasn't appeared in either 2007 or 2008. Also, there were uses of the all-white uniforms before the Schottenheimer era (they wore all white in Superbowl I), but it was pretty consistent (possibly 100%) during that Marty's reign. Also noteworthy: according to this they wore white at home for every home game in 1980 and all white for the 2006 season opener. I'm not saying this information should be included, but it should be considered before any absolute statements are made which contradict it. Adamixoye —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC).
Season records should be separate page
There are now very detailed pages, such as St. Louis Rams seasons, which are highly detailed wikitables for the team's seasons. I don't know how to make the fancy new table and I also don't have the time to make the page. This article has gotten very long, and i'm just suggesting that we should split it up. Thanks! Conman33 21:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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Chiefs uniform and colors
The Chiefs' uniform now and permanently will have an AFL-LH patch on the left chest. The uniform on the Chiefs' page does not show that patch. The Chiefs' official colors are "RED, WHITE AND GOLD", yet the banners used on the Chiefs' page have a purplish-red color (even though there's a standard color called RED available). I've tried unsucessfully to correct both these errors. How can it be done in accordance with Wikipedia conventions? SugnuSicilianu (talk) 03:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- "Red," "White," and "Gold" are generic color names. A wide range of colors could be considered "red," "white," or gold. For example, is the blue for the Carolina Panthers the same as the blue for the New England Patriots? Of course not. One is navy blue, one is carolina blue. The colors used for these templates were extracted from the team's official logos. Like it or not, these are the actual colors the team uses. They aren't "purple" by any stretch of the imagination. Pats1 T/C 03:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
AU CONTRAIRE
THE CHIEFS' OFFICIAL COLORS ARE RED, WHITE, AND GOLD. THESE MAY BE "GENERIC" AND SUBJECTIVE IN EVERYDAY PARLANCE, BUT THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN HTML CODING. FURTHER, THE HTML COLORS RED, WHITE, AND GOLD ALSO ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE THE COLORS THAT THE TEAM WEARS.
WHO DECIDES WHAT THE COLORS SHOWN ON THE CHIEFS' PAGE SHOULD BE? WHO DECIDES WHAT THE "NFL PRIMARY AND SECONDARY COLORS" SHOULD BE? DOES HE/SHE HAVE ANY ART OR STYLE EXPERIENCE? MY ANALYSIS OF THE COLOR USED BY WIKIPEDIA FOR THE CHIEFS, IN RGB, SHOWS 178 RED, 0 GREEN AND 50 BLUE. RED PLUS BLUE MAKES A SHADE CALLED PURPLE-RED. TO THE CONTARY, ANALYSIS OF THE HTML COLOR RED IN RGB SHOWS 255 RED, 0 GREEN, AND ZERO BLUE. THAT'S RED!!! MANY COLORS ON WIKIPEDIA'S TEAM PAGES SIMPLY DO NOT LOOK LIKE THE COLORS THAT THE TEAMS WEAR. DOES THE ACTUAL APPEARANCE AND ATTRACTIVENESS OF A WIKIPEDIA PAGE MEAN ANYTHING, OR IS ONLY CONTENT IMPORTANT? SHOULD AN ENCYCLOPEDIA ENGAGE THE VISUAL SENSES AS WELL THE ADMITTEDLY CEREBRAL COGNITION OF THE OFTEN DRY "CONTENT"? WHAT DO WIKIPEDIA AND ITS 'BOTS HAVE AGAINST GOOD-LOOKING, AS WELL AS GOOD-READING PAGES?
AND THE CHIEFS' OFFICIAL UNIFORM, NOW AND FOREVER, WILL BEAR AN "AFL-LH" PATCH ON THE JERSEYS. WHY ISN'T THIS PATCH SHOWN ON THE SKETCH OF THE CHIEFS' JERSEY? WHY ISN'T IT SHOWN SOMEWHERE IN THE CHIEFS' ARTICLE? FOR EXAMPLE, THE EAGLES' UNIFORM SKETCHES SHOW THE WORD "EAGLES" ON THE JERSEY CHESTS, AND THE "EAGLE HEAD" LOGO ON EACH SLEEVE. WHY DON'T THE CHIEFS' UNIFORM SKETCHES SHOW THE "AFL-LH" PATCH? SugnuSicilianu (talk) 15:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- wow. Calm down. See the button that says Caps Lock? Press it. okay. that's better. The uniform sketches don't show the patch because they are sketches. They don't and probably never will go into that much detail. [The Spooky One] | [t c r] 23:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
FA?
What do you guys think needs to be done to achieve FA status? RC-0722 communicator/kills 19:32, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think this article needs to go more in depth with the specific eras. Obviously, from a die hard fan's point of view, we can't have just a few paragraphs about the Dick Vermeil era, especially the explosive offense that came with it. This definitely needs some more references too, but I'm trying to work on that. conman33 (. . .talk) 04:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'll do some touch up and small-med job. I'll be taking a small wikibreak (1 day) so I can't really promise anything big. RC-0722 communicator/kills 04:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
1980 anyone
How come we don't have any info on the 1980's? RC-0722 361.0/1 23:45, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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Does anyone else see "f2c800; padding:5px;" | " appear at the top of the article. I have been searching around the various templates used in this article and the article itself and can't find where this came from. Does anyone have any ideas? --Daysleeper47 (talk) 14:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Not seeing it... Ryan2845 (talk) 15:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there really a need for a "Logos and uniforms of the Kansas City Chiefs" page?
The Kansas City Chiefs have made such little changes to their uniforms since moving to KC. I do not see a need for a Wikipedia page dedicated to Chiefs' logos and uniforms. I suggest the entire article gets moved to the main Cheifs Wikipedia page. Anyone else? JohnnySeoul (talk) 15:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Not neutral enough
The article does not go into detail much, and it fails to explain how poorly Kansas City has played these past couple of years. There isn't even a mention of their current losing streak! Take the Oakland Raiders article, which goes into details about both their high and low points. 76.10.162.73 (talk) 01:00, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- I would say give it some time, the chiefs have been terrible for just over 1 season, the raiders haven't won more than 5 games a season since 2002, which is the reason there is significant discussion in their main article. For them it's an era of bad play, rather than a season and a couple games.
- These main articles aren't necessarily meant to provide week by week updates, for that i'd suggest looking at 2008 Kansas City Chiefs season, which does mention the current losing streak. Feel free to improve this article yourself of course :) Ryan2845 (talk) 02:22, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- You make a good point about that, but I'm not saying it needs to be in the lead like with the Raiders. It needs to have strong mention in the 2007 and 2008 sections, as it wasn't just being terrible for 1 season, it was 12 consecutive losses -- a franchise record! 76.10.162.73 (talk) 20:54, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Information added. RC-0722 361.0/1 20:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- You make a good point about that, but I'm not saying it needs to be in the lead like with the Raiders. It needs to have strong mention in the 2007 and 2008 sections, as it wasn't just being terrible for 1 season, it was 12 consecutive losses -- a franchise record! 76.10.162.73 (talk) 20:54, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Cunningham to Vermeil Transition
The article makes it sounds as though Gunther Cunningham was fired for poor performance, then an open search was held for the head coach and then Vermeil was hired. IIRC, that's not what happened. Rather, Carl Peterson wanted to hire Vermeil and fired Cunningham rather unexpectedly to do so. There was a delay while compensation with the Rams was worked out (Vermeil had been retired for a year but was technically under contract), but it was logically a single move. This was before the "Rooney Rule". Anyway, I don't have a reference, but if someone does have a reference, this should be edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamixoye (talk • contribs) 21:26, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Template
Why doesn't this article use the template Template:Kansas City Chiefs head coaches? It's working fine. Debresser (talk) 22:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- When the main Kansas City Chiefs article was up for good article review, it was removed and simply given a link to the separate article which basically has the same table sans exact dates of coaches hirings and firings. The one on List of Kansas City Chiefs head coaches was promoted to featured list status, so for WP's standards, it was better. Anyways, I don't think this template is really used at all. conman33 (. . .talk) 23:37, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Correction to league championships:
If the standard is, as given in the footnote, "Does not include the AFL or NFL Championships won during the same seasons as the AFL-NFL Super Bowl Championships prior to the 1970 AFL-NFL Merger" then the correct number is 2: 1962 (AFL) and 1969 (Super Bowl). The 1966 AFL crown wouldn't count, since they lost to the Packers.
- The standard only affects teams that won the AFL-NFL World Championship, as winning that game doesn't the the winning team an extra title. The Chiefs were AFL Champions that year, regardless of the outcome of the AFL-NFL World Championship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MethMan47 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Everything is uniform with other pages. Please stop editing based on personal beliefs.Zoro 1234 20:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Injury of Dr. Joe Waeckerle
I've been building a page for the team physician Joseph Waeckerle. Should something be added the the Chiefs page about him, or the injury he suffered when he was hit by two players during a game, breaking both legs?
- Might be worth a mention in the season article, but probably not for this article LarryJeff (talk) 23:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Super Bowl in two decades?
The sentence which states the Chiefs were the first team to appear in the Super Bowl in two different decades is erroneous, I believe. Yes, Super Bowl IV was played in January 1970, but it was for the 1969 season. Therefore, the first team to truly reach the Super Bowl in different decades was the Baltimore Colts (III and V). I don't understand how people can associate Super Bowls played in years ending in zero with the new decade, since the game determines the champion of the season ending in "9". DavidSteinle (talk) 18:19, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Logos and uniforms
Consider putting something under the Logos and uniforms section about the switch from Reebok to Nike therefore slightly changing the uniforms appearance.Lesabre35 (talk) 07:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
2013-2014
I feel that this section is seriously lacking information. Injuries, records, awards it is missing a ton and it seems to be rather obvious pieces of information. I think we should type out an overview of the season and keep the really important dates. It's been a 2 months since the end of the season for the Chiefs I think we should start to move past that atrocious loss.Lesabre35 (talk) 08:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Adding Bill Polian to the list of Pro Football Hall of Famers
Currently, http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.aspx is also listing Bill Polian's name under the Chiefs. I am however hesitant to add him here because Polian was just a team scout during his time in Kansas City (1978-1982), while his significant contributions that led him to be a Hall of Famer did not really begin until he became the Buffalo Bills GM later on. Thoughts? Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
"Crosstown" rivals?
Were the Texans and the Cowboys actually "crosstown rivals" when they were both playing in the Cotton Bowl? The Cardinals and the Bears were when the former were based in Comiskey Park and the latter in Wrigley Field, and the football Giants and the Jets were when the former were playing at Yankee Stadium and the later at Shea, and even perhaps one could make a case for the Raiders and the Rams when the former were at the Coliseum and the later in Anaheim, but I would argue that is hardly the case now in the Giants/Jets duo, as they share the same premises. A stadium isn't "crosstown" from itself! 2600:1004:B16D:C243:E4AC:3758:1A73:94CB (talk) 04:02, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
RFC Dispute over reliable source
This RFC has been closed and moved to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#NFL Logo Slick. Feel free to comment on it there--Rockchalk717 03:18, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Should the website https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?cid=3a02b2168abfb129&page=view&resid=3A02B2168ABFB129!150&parId=3A02B2168ABFB129!134&authkey=!ABjre5igApB349A&app=WordPdf&wacqt=undefined be used a reliable source for team colors?--Rockchalk717 07:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- Was this brought up at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard?—Bagumba (talk) 08:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, the URL for the 2012 Kansas City Chiefs Logo Slick (which was derived from NFLMedia.com) should ABSOLUTELY be included. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 16:48, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Bagumba:No I have not. Wasn't sure were to go with this. I'll bring it up there. :@Charlesaaronthompson: The purpose of this is to get parties not involved with the dispute involved in the dispute to give a neutral point of view to break the dispute--Rockchalk717 04:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- Discussion is now also at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#NFL Logo Slick--Rockchalk717 04:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was only wondering if they had a response before, I didn't mean to suggest to have two parallel threads (which is discouraged per WP:FORUMSHOP). Perhaps, leave it at RS/N and close this RfC? And consider inviting WP:NFL to whichever one thread you decide to keep open.—Bagumba (talk) 07:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: Which would you recommend? This dude is getting frustrating with his logic behind why he feels its reliable. I'm just not speaking with him anymore about before I say something stupid and get myself blocked. I hope that's not considered a threat either..............--Rockchalk717 02:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'd pick RS/N, as that's the dedicated purpose of the noticeboard.—Bagumba (talk) 03:03, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: Ok awesome thanks. I've removed the RFC template but I'm gonna keep this thread open though.--Rockchalk717 03:18, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'd pick RS/N, as that's the dedicated purpose of the noticeboard.—Bagumba (talk) 03:03, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: Which would you recommend? This dude is getting frustrating with his logic behind why he feels its reliable. I'm just not speaking with him anymore about before I say something stupid and get myself blocked. I hope that's not considered a threat either..............--Rockchalk717 02:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was only wondering if they had a response before, I didn't mean to suggest to have two parallel threads (which is discouraged per WP:FORUMSHOP). Perhaps, leave it at RS/N and close this RfC? And consider inviting WP:NFL to whichever one thread you decide to keep open.—Bagumba (talk) 07:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- Discussion is now also at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#NFL Logo Slick--Rockchalk717 04:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Bagumba:No I have not. Wasn't sure were to go with this. I'll bring it up there. :@Charlesaaronthompson: The purpose of this is to get parties not involved with the dispute involved in the dispute to give a neutral point of view to break the dispute--Rockchalk717 04:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, the URL for the 2012 Kansas City Chiefs Logo Slick (which was derived from NFLMedia.com) should ABSOLUTELY be included. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 16:48, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
There's a related discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League#Color_dispute:_the_issue_besides_reliability regarding the debate over minor colors, like black in this specific case, being listed as a team color.—Bagumba (talk) 01:42, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
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This info page states that the Kansas City Chiefs are not associated with the NFL Dallas Texans. There is no such team, it should read NFL Houston Texans.
Change: (not associated with the NFL Dallas Texans)
To:(not associated with the NFL Houston Texans) 97.99.78.137 (talk) 03:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- Not done The Dallas Texans were an NFL team in 1952. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:53, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Correction to this man, the Dallas Texans were an AFL team that was started in 1960, they are now the Kansas City Chiefs, — Preceding unsigned comment added by WSonic234 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2020
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Kansas City Chiefs 2x Superbowl (Superbowl IV and Superbowl LIV) Jbobbradley (talk) 15:08, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 15:35, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
How Do the Chiefs Have Five Championships?
Why are the Chiefs being credited with two distinct championships for 1969? That makes no sense. Either their AFL Championship is what counts, or their SB Championship is what counts. The Packers and Jets articles don't double count their early SB championships.Politician818 (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Can there PLEASE be a discussion among Wikipedia editors on creating a consensus for what constitutes a "league championship"? The Chiefs, Raiders, Jets, Colts, and Vikings articles are all at odds with the Packers article. The Packers themselves claim thirteen championships, not fifteen. However, for the other five articles NFL/AFL Championships 1966-1969, as well as Super Bowl I-IV victories, are BOTH being counted. Wikipedia should have ONE standard for every NFL article. The Chiefs do not have five championships; that's absurd. They didn't win two separate league championships in 1969.Politician818 (talk) 11:11, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
The Packers' own site does not count their 1966 and 1967 NFL Championships; it counts their Super Bowl Championships those two seasons. That should therefore be the standard for all NFL team articles here and WAS the standard on this site until an edit war started a few months ago. The Chiefs have THREE championships. The Raiders have three. The Jets have one. The Colts have four. The Vikings have zero. Please reply to me on my talk page.Politician818 (talk) 11:16, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
https://www.packers.com/history/championship-seasons Here's a reliable media source stating that the Packers have thirteen championships, and it clearly excludes their two NFL Championships from 1966 and 1967. It counts only their Super Bowl Championships from those years.Politician818 (talk) 11:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- I think you may be conflating things. At the very least it's ambiguous, and you can't draw the conclusion that you are about what they're counting. The Packers site says they have 13 "World Championships", which count their 1966 and 1967 Superbowl wins. The site also says they have "13 NFL Championship Seasons", which count their NFL Championships in 1966 and 1967, but not those two Superbowl wins (since they were not "NFL Championship" games). At least that's how I'd interpret it. But I agree, those seasons should not be counted twice – the four inter-league World Championship Superbowl games were not League championships. There are literally hundreds (even thousands) of WP:RS references for the Vikings being the 1969 NFL champions or the Raiders being the 1967 AFL champions. I don't know how you can argue otherwise. Mojoworker (talk) 22:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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Kansas City Chiefs won the 2020 Super Bowl. The New England Patriots won the 2019 Super Bowl. MYSTIC xDeMoNx (talk) 13:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
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"Matt McGlothlin" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The Chiefs have not retired number 24
Skyy Moore currently wears this number. Brandon Flowers opted to retire with the Chiefs after several seasons with another team. Perhaps that is the source of the confusion. 2603:7080:1C39:6491:38EE:DA93:D827:19B (talk) 03:37, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Seconding this change, via https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/#all_3919648791 Number 24 is not included in the retired numbers chart via pro-football-reference. Additionally, the wrong Brandon Flowers is linked on the live page. Rmcmullin (talk) 17:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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In right-hand column under “Super Bowl Championships (3)”, change “2022 (LVII)” to “2023 (LVII)”. Jcatlin1 (talk) 06:16, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not done. The super Bowl in 2023 was for the 2022 season, it just lasted an extra month and a bit. --Mvqr (talk) 12:22, 13 February 2023 (UTC)