Talk:Johnny Cash/Archive 3

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Multiple entries in halls of fame?

"This crossover appeal won Cash the rare honor of multiple inductions in the Country Music, Rock and Roll, and Gospel Music Halls of Fame."

Does this mean that he's been inducted multiple times into each one, or that he's been inducted into multiple halls of fame? If it's the latter, then think this could be made slightly clearer, by say, adding a comma after "inductions". Packer1028 (talk) 01:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Or simply reword it to say, "This crossover appeal won Cash the rare honor of being inducted into the Country Music, Rock and Roll, and Gospel Music Halls of Fame." That's clear enough. ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 12:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

References...

The references are in a sorry state - there are 8 redlinked "Harv error"s in the References section + 5 "Harv warning"s in the bibliography, the refs are a mix of Harvard style mixed-in with straight ref/cites (like <ref>{{cite web/book/news}}</ref>) plus some bare refs that don't use any cite templates at all. Unless there are any objections I'd like to convert the entire article to the Template:cite style since that is the referencing style most editors are familiar with and since the "Template:cite" style is embedded within the Wikipedia-editing systems. And if you object to bringing the references into agreement with each other/fixing the references in this article, then maybe you can fix all the referencing errors now present in the article? That would be *awesome*. Shearonink (talk) 16:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Come to find out that somehow Jon Pareles' 1994 article on Cash was stripped out of the references...not sure how that is possible when it is referenced 4 separate times. Gonna fix it now and also start in on converting the article to the Cite template/majority-references style. Shearonink (talk) 17:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

In case anyone wants to know how long the CITEREF/Harv errors have been in the article, the Parales reference was deleted in this edit back in 2012 and in that edit the reference was converted into its present mangled state...

While I am working on the article and fixing all the Harv references, I am placing an "under-construction" template on it. I expect this process to (hopefully) take much less than a week. I am not going to bring all the references into agreement with each other, meaning they won't all be cite templates - my main aim is to convert the Harvard refs into the majority cite template style. Shearonink (talk) 18:19, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

birth certificate

his name in birth certificate is John Ray Cash or J. R. Cash? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.211.169.255 (talk) 21:39, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2019

Hi, I would like to request that, in the section on prison performances of Johnny Cash, that the entry for Tennesee State Prison include "featuring Linda Ronstadt". Thinkerly1 (talk) 01:13, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Thinkerly1 Since this is an bibliography, adding that text requires an source.--Snaevar (talk) 15:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Per Wikipedia:Out of scope. There is no reason to mention just one of the multiple featured artists in an article that is not about them. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Outlaw image

Why does this section say Bitter Tears was "considered lost until the early 21st century"? This is completely untrue; that album has been widely available since its release. --SuperDewron (talk) 23:10, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, it's not true and the article Bitter Tears doesn't say that.--Jack Upland (talk) 23:56, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Portrayals, Hilburn biography

The "portrayals" section references Hilburn's Cash biography but does not mention its title, Johnny Cash: The Life. The paragraph about the book is also written in a sensationalist style ("this book doesn't hold back darker details") and needs to be toned down a touch to meet neutrality standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:940:C001:CF90:89C1:7417:11E6:6EAF (talk) 17:25, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2020

Connect Johnny Cash's page with Vivian Cash's. MasonPWinfree (talk) 16:04, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:14, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Well, it was fairly clear, so I've now added a link to Vivian Cash. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:30, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Link reversed. There were no sources on the article attempt. Jalen Folf (talk) 16:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Under Johnny's spouse section. Connect the name Vivian Liberto to her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MasonPWinfree (talk • contribs) 21:52, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2020

Connect Johnny's page to Vivian Cash's page. MasonPWinfree (talk) 21:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@MasonPWinfree:  Done! There was already a link in the Personal life section, but I added a link to the infobox too. GoingBatty (talk) 22:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2020

Zach.Baum7 (talk) 00:53, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

While being hospitalized at Saint Thomas Midtown Hospital in Nashville, Johnny Cash died from diabetes complications resulting in respiratory failure at around 2:00 a.m. (CT) on September 12, 2003, he was 71 years of age. His death came less than four months after the death of his wife, June.

The point? It's not clear what you're requesting.Crboyer (talk) 00:56, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2020

In the section entitled American Recordings, second paragraph, please change Roseanne Cash to Rosanne Cash, as her name is correctly spelled in the first paragraph. Crickover (talk) 19:55, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 20:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2020

Later years and death

Change: "While being hospitalized at Baptist Hospital in Nashville, Cash died of complications from diabetes around 2:00 am CT on September 12, 2003, aged 71—less than four months after his wife. He was buried next to her in Hendersonville Memory Gardens near his home in Hendersonville, Tennessee."

To: "While being hospitalized at Saint Thomas Midtown Hospital in Nashville, Cash died from diabetes complications which resulted in a massive respiratory failure at around 2:00 a.m. (CT) on Friday, September 12, 2003, less than four months after his beloved wife, June. He was buried next to her in Herdersonville Memory Gardens near their home in Hendersonville, Tennessee" Zach.Baum7 (talk) 23:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 03:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Missing published works

Forever Words : The Unknown Poems — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.44.148.174 (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2020

Willie Nelson, George Jones, Waylon Jennings, Ray Price, Ray Charles, Hank Williams Jr and Ernest Tubb’s names are missing in the associated acts category. Texas0213 (talk) 19:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Generally the associated acts list is kept to the most prominent and frequent entries, not every entry for ease of readability. — IVORK _Talk 03:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2021

Add “Harmonica” to the list of Instruments under Musical Career in the main right sidebar. He plays the harmonica on his song “Orange Blossom Special.” 2600:1005:B150:AFE9:2CE2:EA8C:461B:4514 (talk) 03:32, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: The list of instruments in the infobox is intended to relate the instruments for which the musician is primarily notable, not every instrument they may have played or have been recorded playing. Cash was not notable as a harmonica player. He was notable as a vocalist and guitar player. General Ization ^Talk 03:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2021

Johnny Cash first wife Vivian was not Italian. Her grandparents were negro. That was a lie he told because he was illegal at the time to intermarry with black people. 2601:147:200:861:4CDD:1DAD:E4D9:4EBE (talk) 17:40, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Schazjmd (talk) 17:46, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2021

In the "Later years and death" section there is a mistake about the age at death. Please change "June Carter Cash died on May 15, 2003, aged 73." to "June Carter Cash died on May 15, 2003, aged 71." VladForKing (talk) 14:00, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done - that doesn't align with June Carter. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:04, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

No jail terms

Should this really be a section heading in the article???--Jack Upland (talk) 09:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

I completely agree. I'm not sure when that was added, but it's a terrible heading title. I think the content could be remerged to the "outlaw image" subsection. ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 13:29, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

It was added on 8 September 2017. I've removed it. (Anyway, it's wrong. It should be "No prison terms".)--Jack Upland (talk) 09:28, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Exactly. Thanks! ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 14:15, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

? Leonard Schmitt (talk) 13:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2021

Under Filmography, you are missing a movie that Johnny Cash played in. It was called "Hootenanny Hoot" from 1963. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057153/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 HarryWV (talk) 03:52, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. IMDb is user generated, so we cannot use it all a reliable source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:40, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2022

please change United States Army Air Force to United States Air Force 12.19.225.242 (talk) 21:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done Shearonink (talk) 23:17, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Category suggestion

Since Cash was ordained, he should be added to Category:American Christian clergy. 142.127.171.107 (talk) 07:01, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

John R. Cash (album)

Need article on the album. Not a redirect. 2601:542:C480:9160:CCAA:BA01:B4DB:AAA (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 August 2022

Please include a page on John R. Cash ( The album) 2601:542:C480:9160:CCAA:BA01:B4DB:AAA (talk) 07:34, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

You are free to create the page.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

What?

Cash also enjoyed booking mainstream performers as guests. As opposed to what? What else was he supposed to do? And this is somewhat contradicted by the comment that this was Ronstadt's first TV appearance. Jack Upland (talk) 19:51, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

"American series" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect American series and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 5 § American series until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TNstingray (talk) 23:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2023

Add Film- Murder in Coweta County, played as Sheriff Lamar Potts (1983) 107.115.207.31 (talk) 23:22, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 23:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Filmography incomplete

Please add https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_Coweta_County 73.205.4.63 (talk) 12:56, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

It's already there, in the television section. --Onorem (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

"Known professionally as Johnny Cash"

Up until I went to this page, I never knew that Johnny Cash's birth name was either "J.R. Cash" or "John R. Cash". I believe that the right way to input a performer's name is "John R. Cash, known professionally as "Johnny Cash" or "Johnny Cash (born "J.R. Cash" or "John R. Cash)". Would someone be able to make this edit? 208.44.170.100 (talk) 21:11, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

A bit delayed, but for clarification he wasn’t born John R. Cash.

”His mother wanted to name him John and his father preferred to name him Ray, so J. R. ended up being the only compromise they could agree on.”

‘J.R.’ was his first name. ‘J.R.’ didn’t stand for “John R.” nor necessarily “John Ray”. In the childhood section of his autobiography his family calls him ‘J.R.’ Then:

“When Cash enlisted in the Air Force [in 1950], he was not permitted to use initials as a first name, so he changed it to John R. Cash.”

Then of course:

”In 1955, when signing with Sun Records, he started using the name Johnny Cash.” 2A00:23C6:95CE:B401:D989:D507:7888:1B3A (talk) 16:51, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Missing Notable Cover

Please add "Redemption Day" by Sheryl Crow to list of notable covers Mabrookes (talk) 23:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Vivian Cash

There is no first reference of Vivian Cash (where they met, when they were married, her history). An introduction to her entrance to Johnny Cash's life is missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BorealBoy (talk • contribs) 23:52, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2024

You state Johnny Cash had 3 older siblings- I count 4 98.97.136.86 (talk) 02:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I can only see three mentioned. Who are you referring to?--Jack Upland (talk) 02:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Disjointed terminology

In the section currently titled "Activism for Indigenous Americans", the section can't seem to pick a terminological schema. "indigenous", "native American", etc. Makes it hard to read. WP:commonname and Native Americans in the United States makes it clear which it should be. "Indigenous", in my reading, almost always refers to the broader category of all the native peoples of North and South America, as indicated by Indigenous peoples of the Americas. But, I'm old fashioned, so I still favor American Indians, and "Tribal" over these other PC and jargonized versions. 50.37.152.122 (talk) 20:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Edited text.--Jack Upland (talk) 23:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Ancestry claim

The reference to the Finding your Roots episode featuring Roseanne Cash is not a source for Johnny Cash's ancestry. It did not discuss Native ancestry, and focused almost solely on her maternal ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.247.246.185 (talk) 01:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

he was a quoter

w.w. 12.86.241.210 (talk) 13:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2024

Change where it says and "Cherokee ("Talking Leaves")" *Under Activism for Native Americans to "Cherokee ("The Talking Leaves") Chuz678 (talk) 20:45, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done PianoDan (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

marriage and family

what's the point of this heading for two sentences which are already under the personal life section anyway? It's crazy to see the things nitpicked in this talk section archive while the article has such an obviously extraneous section. Really missing the forest for the trees, js

Combined with previous section. Balon Greyjoy (talk) 11:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)