Talk:John Wall

Move

I think this page should be moved to John Wall, instead of John Wall (basketball). Ice (talk) 00:42, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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Not moved. Creating a new dab page is not a part of this close. I'll leave that for others to decide. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

John Wall (basketball) → John Wall — John Wall is redirected to Jack Wall, so I think that this page should be under John Wall not a diambiguation of Jack Wall. —Ice (talk) 00:48, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

• Comment Oppose There is also John Wall (judge) and John Wall (priest), is the basketball player sufficiently more notable then these two individuals? 84.92.117.93 (talk) 18:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

• Not presently, but I suspect he will be in a few years. Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 14:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

• Comment At least redirect it to somewhere besides Jack Wall, since that isnt his name. Ice (talk) 02:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
• Comment I think John Wall should be a disambiguation page separate from the Jack Wall disambiguation page. If the subject of this particular article lives up to his hype, as I suspect he will, we can discuss moving the disambiguation page to John Wall (disambiguation) and making him the subject of the John Wall page as the most notable John Wall on Wikipedia. Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 14:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
• Comment I agree that we should make a John Wall (disambiguation) page. Ice (talk) 21:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

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Requested move attempt 2

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The result of the move request was: closed, no consensus billinghurst sDrewth 04:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

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John Wall (basketball) → John Wall — He is the most notable John Wall and now I think the page should be moved since he is an NBA and other NBA players got the main page of their name once they were drafted such as Kevin Love and recently a newly drafted NHL player got the main page of his name. His name is Taylor Hall. The other John Walls can be moved to a disambiguation page. Ice (talk) 05:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Support I'm pretty sure he's now the most notable John Wall on Wikipedia. The present John Wall page should be moved to John Wall (disambiguation). Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 15:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. I see no reason to consider this the primary topic, and cases in which there is no primary topic are handled just as the John Walls are currently handled. Will this guy still be "the most notable John Wall" in 50 years? Deor (talk) 22:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment He is the most notable John Wall at the time. Most people probably haven't heard of the others and who knows if he will be the most notable in 50 years, there may be another John Wall. Ice (talk) 23:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Support He should be the main John Wall and the others can be made into a disambiguation page. 68.186.13.89 (talk) 23:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose. There are 4 other John Walls on the dab page, more than for the other examples quoted. so it is difficult to claim primary topic. Things do not seem to have changed much since the previous discussion above. Cjc13 (talk) 14:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment He is more notable since the previous topic since he is in the NBA now instead of college. Ice (talk) 17:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment by closer. You were also looking to rename the disambiguation page, so that should have been included in the discussion, and in fact that may have been . Consequences of a move are broader than this one person. billinghurst sDrewth 04:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

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Cleanup College Career

The section addresses events and individual games that are not of great significance. For example, how important is John Wall doing the "John Wall Dance" in his intro? Also, how important is his 11/21/09 game against Rider?

Moreover, the section completely lacks any information about the SEC Tournament or the NCAA Tournament, which must certainly be considered more significant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.143.198 (talk) 19:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Wall's rookie season

I would caution against going overboard with the treatment of Wall's rookie season. It may be tempting to put in a sentence about every game he plays, but I think it's important to give a general sense of his performance, maintaining at all times an objective and biographical point of view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hstevens86 (talk • contribs) 11:04, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep, recentism is always a problem in these articles. I agree fully. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

College Career

Does it really have to have four of his first five games in the paragraph? Those are unneeded.--Bellsprout723d (talk) 03:04, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Changes

I'm wondering why the changes I made were deleted, I provided some references so I'm assuming I didn't reference right? I feel my changes definitely changed the page for the better. DA Fernandez (talk) 13:38, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Seems the reverting editor didn't feel that the sources were clear and that the prose was sloppy. I haven't gone through them with a fine-toothed comb, but they didn't look that bad to me. I think they were salvageable at the least. I'll wait for some more discussion, but I'd favor putting the changes back in and cleaning them up as necessary. As I'm able, I'd be willing to help with that. Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 13:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Where is the info on the NCAA tournament.I feel the article was also much better the way it was. If the reverting editor found the prose to be sloppy he could have just fixed the grammatical errors. The references were there,can you just delete every change made like that? 96.57.95.202 (talk) 18:58, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2017

Basketball-reference adjusted Wall's per game stats (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walljo01.html). He averaged 2.0 steals for the regular season, not 2.1. With that change, he would not be the NBA steals leader for the 2016-17 season (listed under "accomplishments"). Great page, otherwise. 71.166.54.158 (talk) 02:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for that. It has been corrected. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2017

Add injury under 2017-18 season BugsLife (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Please also provide reliable sources to verify the injury. As it is, you have not said even what the injury is or when it occurred or how it happened. All these specifics need to be explicitly requested and supported by sources. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 01:18, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2018

John Wall has recently requested to the news that he's going to Kentucky University. I wanted to change that to it so Wikipedia can have the most accurate info. But sadly this article is protected. Nbamemes (talk) 13:52, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

@Nbamemes:  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DaHuzyBru (talk) 14:33, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2019

Carlosmen7 (talk) 04:43, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

History

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 06:05, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Mother

His mom died from cancer on Friday, December 13th, 2019. Shouldn't that be in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WiltChamberlain13 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@WiltChamberlain13: I have no opinion for Wall. Maybe you can argue why it should be in the article (and cite a reliable source). Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 03:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 15 August 2020

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• John Wall (basketball) → John Wall
• John Wall → John Wall (disambiguation)

– clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 01:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

• Support Page views indicate a beyond overwhelmingly clear primary topic--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:43, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
• Support 5-time NBA All-Star has 1,000 page views/day while none of the others even reach double figures.—Bagumba (talk) 04:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
• Support. I had actually planned to oppose this based on the commonality of the given name and surname, and the number of matching titles, but the page views really are that overwhelming. BD2412 T 04:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:54, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
• Support. There is a clear primary topic by usage. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:01, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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Clipper?

It’s been too long since he’s been signed with the Clippers? Why not edit that in already?? 2001:4450:4972:E100:3863:F7BB:7471:C285 (talk) 11:19, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

There's the usual July moratorium. We'll need a confirmation from a named official, not breaking news from anonymous sources.—Bagumba (talk) 11:53, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I understand the July moratorium, but John Wall himself has announced the signing and is in a Clipper's warmup working out in the Clipper's facility. I get the whole official announcement thing, but in this day and age, media travels much too quickly to await these team announcements. An announcement from the player in the team gear or a press conference from a team should suffice. Waiting until the end of the moratorium and/or announcements from the team will always be a topic and source of constant edit/revert battles that we see every year.RichieConant34 (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

That source says "agreed to a two-year contract", not that he signed yet. —Bagumba (talk) 00:43, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, because he can't 'officially' sign until tomorrow. You know my views, I've been vocal about them for awhile. I just think it's silly to have revert battles on technicalities. My view is the guy is part of the Clippers, just because he hasn't officially put pen to paper, there is in fact a verbal agreement to the point that he's working out in team-gear in the Clipper's facility. You've mentioned in the past trying to create a new consensus, but I'm not savvy enough to know how to do that here. What I do know is that 99.9% (if not 100%) of the reported signings, or verbal agreements between team and player, will come to fruition tomorrow or shortly after.

If we want to be consistent, that's the only way to be. Keep the protections if you wish, but active autoconfirmed users, like myself, are eager to make accurate edits based on these verbal unsourced (Woj/Shams + others) agreements. Otherwise we run into situations like this: John Wall is listed as a FA on Wiki (correct based on current rules), but Isaiah Roby is listed as a Spur (no official annoucement) and Danilo Gallinari is listed as a Celtic (no official announcement), etc. These are just quick examples. It's confusing, and I understand the premise of the technicality rule in place now, but again I just think it's an outdated system that needs a rework. RichieConant34 (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2022

Johnathan Hildred Wall Jr. is an American professional basketball player for the Los Angeles Clippers of the National Basketball Association. 91.235.161.55 (talk) 14:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

We have to wait for official team announcement which has not been made yet. Agree it should be changed, but by current rules we have to wait. RichieConant34 (talk) 21:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Change john wall to rockets!

Change John Wall to the Houston Rockets Splashbros301 (talk) 23:09, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

It's not official yet. The team will announce it when it is. -- Zoo (talk) 23:11, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2023: grammar.

Section "Houston Rockets (2021-2022)", first line: replace "John Wall, [...], WERE transferred" to "John Wall, [...], WAS transferred". Theusess (talk) 21:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Were is correct, since it is referring to more than person being traded. RudolfRed (talk) 01:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)