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"Described as temporary..."

We read that Smyth was asked to stand down as the head of JASA, and then the sentence "Described as temporary, his return was not thought likely". This can only mean that his return was described as temporary, which is clearly not what is meant here. If the sentence is changed to "This [i.e. his standing-down as head of JASA] was described as temporary, but his return is not thought likely", this passage would be clearer English. And no, this is not grammatical nitpicking! 213.127.210.95 (talk) 15:48, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Amended. Nedrutland (talk) 07:53, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New book on abuse allegations

‘Bleeding for Jesus’: book tells story of QC who pitilessly abused young men

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John Cummings (talk) 17:29, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A person who dies as QC, retains that title

This is a note simply for information for anyone who might not know, or who might ponder the question. When the Monarch of the United Kingdom changes from female to male, or vice versa, the title of all living/serving Sovereign's Counsels (King's or Queen's Counsels) automatically and instantly changes as per statutory law. In the case of a dead Counsel, they (as a matter of law) continue in perpetuity to be referred to using the title (i.e. KC or QC) that applied at the time of their (the Counsel's) own death. Therefore, the child abuser John Smyth QC (who died as a QC) should post-mortem continue to be referred to as 'QC', regardless of the gender of the current reigning monarch. I'm not aware of any process or precedent to posthumously rescind a QC or KC title - almost certainly no such process exists at the time of writing. Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 17:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“Is a child abuser”

Is it normal for articles about notorious criminals to be positively and definitely identified by their crime in the first sentence? Even Adolf Hitler was "a politician" who "perpetrated the Holocaust". Smyth is more than his crime. 185.37.117.141 (talk) 23:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you might wish to edit Hitler's Wikipedia page to note that "as well as being a successful politician, Adolf Hitler was a verified best-selling author and an accomplished artist (particularly in the watercolour medium), who outside of his creative hobbies perpetrated the Holocaust."

I think the difference is that no matter how any person chooses to describe Hitler, every sentient human-being knows and abhors what he was and what he did.

Smyth is not more than his crime. Anyone claiming that is a blatant child abuse apologist. It's about degrees of notoriety. Hitler claims the number 1 spot. It doesn't make any difference if apologists draw attention to Hitler being a loving and loyal husband for all of 40 hours, him being an ardent dog lover, his having impeccable sartorial elegance (and being Hugo Boss's first A-list celebrity model) or him possessing an impeccably groomed moustache. Mankind knows and will always know he was the most despicable sociopathic monster ever to walk this Earth.

Smyth does not enjoy Hitler's level of notoriety however. Therefore, yes, it is important and it is normal to put his horrific abuses of children front and centre. Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 23:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason this is in the category "Catholic Church sexual abuse scandals in the United Kingdom" when this... was Anglican? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.248.4 (talk) 01:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why you're asking this question of me - what has it to do with me or my talk entry? In any event - very obviously this article should not be categorised as you've described. So why don't you amend it? At the same time perhaps you should consider not referring to Smyth as a gentleman. Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 01:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I left Wikipedia years ago. Not sure it was sensible to even write that.216.49.248.4 (talk) 02:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've no idea what you're saying. If you left, why are you here? And whose contribution are you saying is not sensible? Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 02:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]