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Where's his campaigning on the platform that he had been "declared innocent"? Septentrionalis 04:19, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why does it really matter that Nixon died three years after Connally — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ziggy 99 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy theories

The article says neither Connally nor his wife believed in any conspiracy theories. This is contradicted here - http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8381.shtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.86.122.122 (talk • contribs) 12:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here Nellie Connally says that first Kennedy was wounded and then from the next shot the Governor was wounded and from the shot after that Kennedy was killed: http://web.lconn.com/mysterease/connally.htm The thing is that the magic bullet theory claims that Kennedy and Connally were both wounded from the same shot. 80.186.100.180 16:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article says Connally and his wife do not endorse JFK conspiracy theories, this is not true: http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=other_conspiracies&subpage1=jfk_and_911— Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.245.76 (talk • contribs) 03:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe it is noteworthy that when Connally died, he was immediately cremated, such that the bullet fragments which remained in his wrist after the JFK assassination, were never recovered. The fact that bullet fragments were left in his wrist after his recovery, was often mentioned during the decades following the JFK assassination. I noted the lack of mention of those bullet fragments when his death was reported. This article should mention those bullet fragments in its discussion of his recovery from his wounds. I wouldn't expect this article to draw conclusions from the apparent steps taken to prevent the recovery of those fragments, but the factual information should be included. Janice Vian, Ph.D. (talk) 03:49, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm four and half years late to the party, but a few inaccuracies should be addressed with that last comment. First, I see no reports that Connally was cremated. Second, the fact that bullet fragments were in his wrist was reported by the media (e.g. [1][2]). It's only the conspiracy theorists who think the initial headlines should have screamed: "John Connally dead at age 76; bullet fragments in the former Governor's wrist may point to conspiracy in JFK assassination!" Third, if one believes that there were "steps taken to prevent the recovery of those fragments", they might as well add Nellie to the list of conspirators because one can assume that she was the one with the authority to refuse the FBI's request. As the family spokesman was quoted: "It's an appalling attempt to capitalize on Governor Connally's death to gain publicity for worn-out theories." - Location (talk) 07:04, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I agree completely with Location.
Richard27182 (talk) 10:18, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Out of Scope

I believe that mentioning the number and timing of the bullet that struck Connally is out of the scope of this article. This is better discussed on other pages devoted to the events of November 22, 1963 and I proposed the sentence be deleted.

Tranka 16:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and will delete.--Parkwells (talk) 22:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Eisenhower a Texan?

"Connally surfaced in Algiers as part of the planning staff for the invasion of Africa by General Dwight D. Eisenhower, also a native Texan whom Connally greatly admired."

Huh? Ike was most definitely a Kansan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.109.103.194 (talk) 17:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ike was born in Denison, Texas but moved to kansas when he was only a few months old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.54.183.222 (talk) 20:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's too much of a stretch to call Eisenhower a Texan, regardless of his being born there. --Parkwells (talk) 22:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Governor of Texas

This section needs more content - as gov. of the largest state in the 1960s, Connally must have done something.--Parkwells (talk) 22:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At least two areas would be interesting to explore: Connally's support for higher education and Connally as a governor during the civil rights era. He is well regarded to this day for his contributions in the former and I have heard a now-deceased African-American businessman praise Connally in the latter. No sources yet, but I will be exploring and suggest this as a fertile area to look into. A.T.S. in Texas (talk) 00:47, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

VP appointment

The article strongly implies that Connally wasn't nominated to replace Agnew because he would have faced opposition. The Nixon tapes, however, suggest that the reason is that Connally turned it down. See Conversation 541-2 here. Thoughts? -Rrius (talk) 07:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Family?

The box lists children and wife, with dates. Shouldn't there be something in the article itself about his family? Two of his brothers have Wikipedia articles, one daughter died young and he managed to stay married to the same woman for 53 years. Couldn't someone fill in some details.Another-sailor (talk) 13:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Which version of the lede do you prefer?

RfC closed, preference is clear for career and offices first, events last. Acroterion (talk) 18:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Which version of the lede do you prefer? - Location (talk) 06:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1: 39th Governor of Texas precedes passenger in JFK's car on November 22, 1963

John Bowden Connally, Jr. (February 27, 1917 – June 15, 1993), was an American politician. As a Democrat he served as the 39th Governor of Texas, as Secretary of the Navy under President John F. Kennedy, and as Secretary of the Treasury under President Richard M. Nixon. As Treasury Secretary, Connally is best remembered for removing the U.S. dollar from the gold standard in 1971, an event known as the Nixon shock. On November 22, 1963, Connally, at the time the Governor of Texas, was a passenger in the car in which President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, and was seriously wounded during the shooting.

In 1973 he switched parties to become a Republican, and ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for President in 1980.

Option 2: Passenger in JFK's car on November 22, 1963 precedes 39th Governor of Texas

John Bowden Connally, Jr. (February 27, 1917 – June 15, 1993), was an American politician. On November 22, 1963, Connally, at the time the Governor of Texas, was a passenger in the car in which President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, and was seriously wounded during the shooting.

As a Democrat he served as the 39th Governor of Texas, as Secretary of the Navy under President John F. Kennedy, and as Secretary of the Treasury under President Richard M. Nixon. As Treasury Secretary, Connally is best remembered for removing the U.S. dollar from the gold standard in 1971, an event known as the Nixon shock.

In 1973 he switched parties to become a Republican, and ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for President in 1980.

Option 1 (Political career first, assassination stuff second). Connally had a long and very significant political career, that should be placed at the forefront here. The fact that he was shot during the Kennedy assassination does bear mentioning in the lede, but there's no question that it is of secondary importance to outlining Conally's major offices and appointments. Fyddlestix (talk) 07:24, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Option 1 I agree with Fyddlestix on this one: political carrier followed by the assassination info seems appropriate for this BLP. Cheers Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 17:17, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Comatmebro's choice here, but I don't understand why Comatmebro refers to the article as a BLP. Richard27182 (talk) 08:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1 Being a passenger in President Kennedy's assassination car is undoubtedly the one thing John B. Connally is best remembered for; nevertheless, I believe that an article about him should begin with information about his own political career. His association with the Kennedy assassination does belong in the lede, but it belongs at the end of the lede.
Richard27182 (talk) 08:06, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1 I would even suggest including the content noting his switch from Democrat to Republican before mentioning the assassination. No doubt the assassination warrants inclusion in the lead but his political career should be mentioned before it. Meatsgains (talk) 02:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1. No question the JFK stuff should be in the lead, but this article is about him and his career, not JFK. Gamaliel (talk) 00:09, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1, obviously. - Cwobeel (talk) 00:39, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1 - Details about his own political career should definitely start the lede, as they are the most notable part about it. I agree with all the statements above. Cheers, Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 18:15, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1 - per article is based on John Connally, not the JFK assassination or Connaly's part in it. Dr Crazy 102 (talk) 01:02, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1, for the reasons given by Fyddlestix and Richard27182. ╠╣uw [talk] 10:17, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1 although I don't believe his party affiliation switch is necessarily important enough to record quite so prominently. Coretheapple (talk) 12:16, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1 summoned by bot the phrasing in option 2 seems thoroughly undue. Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Option 1. I may solicit an admin for a snow close. - Location (talk) 15:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the result is pretty clear here. I actually already swapped Option 1 into the article, it seems unlikely that anyone is going to object at this point. Fyddlestix (talk) 15:17, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Dubious JFK Claims

Under the section 'Kennedy assassination', the following claim is made:

"Journalist Doug Thompson claimed that in 1982, he had a private conversation with Connally, and asked him if he was convinced that Oswald killed Kennedy. According to Thompson, Connally replied, "Absolutely not. I do not for one second believe the conclusions of the Warren Commission."[23]"

The source for the Kansas State University article seems to lead back to an opinion piece by Amanda Lang on opednews.org (https://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_doug_tho_060330_is_deception_the_bes.htm). opednews does not seem like a reliable source, and I believe the section should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:a000:1118:ca89:486d:9a05:5434:39ce (talk) 02:02, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article was first self-published by Thompson in Capitol Hill Blue here. The statement is completely out of character with the totality of Connally's stated views on the subject, so this fails WP:REDFLAG. An "exceptional claim requires multiple high-quality sources". -Location (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Thompson is the author of a book called Bombshell: The night Bobby Kennedy Killed Marilyn Monroe. I think we can ignore his musings. Cullen328 (talk) 22:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]