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I've restored the sources from Find A Grave for the birth and death years of the individuals in this article (without them, a "citation needed" tag is needed). These sources are direct photographic evidence of the birth and death dates. I agree that a printed, scholarly secondary source (with photos) would be preferable and if you can find one you're welcome to include it. However, in the meantime it seems pointless to destroy a link to a primary source (a picture of a gravestone). If you prefer to bypass the Find A Grave website's advertising, a link can be made directly to the photos themselves: James Trobec, John Trobec, Joseph Trobec, Blaž Trobec, John Seliškar.
I should point out that it was the direct evidence from the primary source James Trobec (also corroborated by secondary sources) that initially led me to correct the wrong death date taken from a more "official" secondary source, James Trobec (incorrectly given as 15 December). Please discuss this issue here further with other editors and help shape a consensus on whether a link to direct photographic evidence is a reliable source, and please let someone else remove the links if the consensus favors that. Doremo (talk) 02:46, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
