Talk:James Hanley (novelist)

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there's a pic of hanley here

http://www.pennilesspress.co.uk/ images/hanley2.bmp

But I don't know how to upload it to wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.201.178 (talk) 18:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

This doesn't link to a picture. Rwood128 (talk) 20:56, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Original rsearch banner

I've added the banner because I now realize that editing -- done by me in the past -- does not conform to Wikipedian standards. Rwood128 (talk) 13:11, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

B-class review

@Rwood128: Reviewing per WP:BIO request: Not far. Introduction (lead) is too short (WP:LEAD) and there are some unreferenced paragraphs/sentences. Fix those, and it should be B-class. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:13, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Image of Liverpool

Re the recent edits. Why "or nothing at all"? It is better, visually, to have a picture in the info box, and this image was the most relevant that I could find. Is this a Wikipedia rule? Even if it is, it seems too narrow (and worth ignoring). If this is just your personal view, please reconsider. Thanks. Rwood128 (talk) 13:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

It is just my personal opinion. I find it very confusing when the picture in the infobox does not depict the subject. But feel free to revert if you are of a other opinion. P. S. Burton (talk) 18:43, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Or a copyrighted image of the subject could be used under fair use, as in this example File:EllenWilkinson.jpg. P. S. Burton (talk) 18:47, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

P. S. Burton, thanks for replying. I found an image here [1], in the public domain, presumably following the fair use criterion. The same image appears on at least one other site. However, I don't have the expertise to get the image onto Wikipedia – and I'm nervous about copyright, especially as I don't want to offend the copyright holder. I will, therefore, unfortunately, probably take the easy route and revert. Rwood128 (talk) 19:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

No, this is completely against MOS:LEADIMAGE and is confusing. No image is better if there is no available image of the subject of a bio. MB 13:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

MB with respect, what MOS:IMAGES says is, that "Images must be significant and relevant in the topic's context" and "It is common for an article's lead or infobox to carry a representative image—such as of a person or place, a book or album cover—to give readers visual confirmation that they've arrived at the right page". As a photo of Hanley isn't available, a picture of Liverpool seems the best that can be done-and is a visual confirmation that the reader has arrived at the right page.

Rules are meant to be bent but here there is in fact no firm rule (no specific ban as far as I can see). All the same I will look into the possibility of getting permission for a photo to be used. But in the meantime the original image should be restored. Rwood128 (talk) 14:19, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

This picture does just the opposite - it tells me I am not at a biography because biography articles have pictures of the subject. You are misinterpreting - a representative image means of the person, the place, the book, the album cover, etc., that is the subject of the article. This is further enforced by "Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic; they should not only illustrate the topic specifically, but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works, and therefore what our readers will expect to see". MB 14:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

I realise that this image is second best but Hanley is closely associated with Liverpool. And furthermore there is no outright ban, just custom and personal opinion. This image enhances the page visually. Perhaps one of the images that turn-up on Google might be used here? Would you, MB, be able to look into that? I do not have the knowledge to sort that out. Rwood128 (talk) 15:20, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

This seems to be an example of an image, for an author, that is used on Wikipedia, even though the copyright owner doesn't appear to have been consulted, [2]. Also see Angela Carter. Rwood128 (talk) 15:37, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Image of Hanley

Several images appears with a Google search, which suggests they may be freely available. <https://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=https://greatwarfiction.wordpress.com/files/2009/02/james-hanley.jpg&imgrefurl=https://greatwarfiction.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/james-hanley/&h=376&w=249&tbnid=PB83cXs1rVzcBM:&tbnh=160&tbnw=106&usg=__xsI19zrW6wrSGfOZ9kdFQoT_dic%3D&vet=1&docid=sW8-vfeKD0t2EM&itg=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiq-dC2xf7YAhUyTd8KHRoPCAwQ_B0IkQEwDQ> Rwood128 (talk) 01:35, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Thes images don't appear to be clearly out of copyright, But maybe someone with more knowledge of copyright could look into this, MB? Rwood128 (talk) 14:20, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Image

While it is good to see an image of Hanley, I suspect that there may be a copyright problem, because Hanley did not die in 1947 but 1985. Rwood128 (talk) 09:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

My error – it is the artist who died in 1947. So there's no problem. Rwood128 (talk) 20:51, 28 July 2021 (UTC)