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"Irish Separatists" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Irish Separatists and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 21#Irish Separatists until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. The Banner talk 17:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Irish separatist" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Irish separatist and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 21#Irish separatist until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. The Banner talk 17:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Irish separatists" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Irish separatists and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 21#Irish separatists until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. The Banner talk 17:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV?

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"At the time of the partition of Ireland most of the island was Roman Catholic and largely indigenous, while a sizeable portion of the country, particularly in the north, was Protestant and chiefly descended from people from Great Britain who colonised the land as settlers during the reign of King James I in 1609."

There is no way that this is neutral, and even less of a chance that it's accurate. What do you suppose an "indigenous" Irishman was in the year 1921? Jonathan f1 (talk) 02:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First claim - "most of the island was Roman Catholic".
This is very obviously true any Irish schoolchild could tell you that. The last census prior to 1921 was taken in 1911 and using the search on the census site you can see that 3,188,422 people identified as Roman Catholic which is 72% of those included in the census.
Second claim - "largely indigenous"
I would take this to mean ethnically Irish and in the context whose family tree predates the settlers of 1609. The way you state your question it sounds like you don't believe the country was inhabited for very long so I figure you might want to read the page on Prehistoric Ireland. I don't think this part of the claim is easily answerable with the census data available but I struggle to imagine a world where it's untrue. For it to be untrue Ireland would have had to have a major period of immigration between 1609 and 1921 however notoriously the opposite is the case.
If you think there's a POV issue perhaps you could be clearer about it is you're seeing. D1551D3N7 (talk) 22:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]