Talk:Hurricane Nina (1957)

Hurricane Nina (1957) has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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Date	Process	Result
October 21, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed

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Todo

I set it as a B class, given the amount of info for such an old storm. Some todo would be finding an infobox picture (damage pic, maybe) and more lede. Hurricanehink (talk) 12:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I gotta say, I can't believe you did all of that in one edit! Well done. In the future, you can save more often, you know ;) Hurricanehink (talk) 12:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! By the way, I found a damage pic, but the part that's biting me is that it's from the Hurricane News Archives and I have no clue if it can be used fair use. The pic is also rather bad in quality, but right now, it's all there is. URL is: http://www.thehurricanearchive.com/Viewer.aspx?img=31125836&firstvisit=true&currentResult=2&currentPage=10

Jake52 My talk 02:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, that damage photo is copyrighted by the Associated Press, and thus unusable. The only alternative would be to upload the entire newspaper image and source it with Template:Newspapercover, though I'm not sure. You might want to ask an admin. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is even worse than just using the image as any FU rationale for the whole page is weaker than just the image. The newspaper cover boilerplate would make sense if the newspaper article itself was in some way important to the story of the storm. This image cannot be used in any way shape or form in this article; which isn't that big a deal - its not that good anyway. All I can say is keep looking... the DOD is a possible source for example.--Nilf anion (talk) 22:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removal from off-season storms category

I removed Nina from Category:Off-season Eastern Pacific tropical cyclones for the following reasons:

At its report, the CPHC says: "Not only was NINA preceded by a cold front, but no sooner had the storm left the Hawaiian area when another cold front passed across Kauai and Oahu -- on December 6. NINA was the fourth late season tropical cyclone in a series of cyclones which began on November 1 with typhoon KIT originating near 5.0N 171.5E, followed by typhoon LOLA on the 6th at 5.5N 173E, then typhoon MAMIE at 5.0 N 173E on the 16th and culminating with NINA." (emphasis added) The CPHC says that Nina is a late season storm, not an off-season one.
The list of off season cyclones at list of Pacific hurricanes says that "Only systems that formed off-season in this basin are included." (emphasis added) By allowing Nina in, the criteria for inclusion in the list would be different from the criteria for inclusion in the category! And that is silly.

And for those reasons, Nina does not belong in the category. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it should be noted that it lasted out of the defined season, and that's why it's an off-season Pacific hurricane.Jason Rees (talk) 01:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]