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Former featured article candidateHurricane Bud (2018) is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive.
Good articleHurricane Bud (2018) has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Featured topic starHurricane Bud (2018) is part of the 2018 Pacific hurricane season series, a featured topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
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January 6, 2019Good article nomineeListed
January 13, 2021Featured article candidateNot promoted
June 10, 2021Featured topic candidatePromoted
Current status: Former featured article candidate, current good article

To do

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Sources for impact: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] (Arizona), NHC advisories for TS warnings/watches. ~ KN2731 {t · c} 05:32, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bud’s comparison image

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Man I really love that image, it’s humorous and all but I think we need to get a more serious image instead because you know, it’s Wikipedia. Xyklone (talk) 09:57, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is closer to peak intensity. 16:37, 25 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandoncyclone (talkcontribs)

GAN

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I'm the largest contributor to this article. That being said, @Figfires: has expressed intention to improve the article to GA status, and I don't plan on editing it any time soon, so that's fine by me. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 00:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Oof-off (talk · contribs) 14:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article Status - Review Criteria

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  2. (a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and
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  4. (a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;
    (b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);[2]
    (c) it contains no original research; and
    (d) it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
  5. Broad in its coverage:
  6. (a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;[3] and
    (b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
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Review

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  1. Well-written:
  2. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (prose) The prose is clear and concise. I changed some of the wording, but other than that, the spelling and grammar was of good quality. One reference was misspelled, but the error was easily fixed. Pass Pass
    (b) (MoS) Complies with the manual of style guidelines Pass Pass
  3. Verifiable with no original research:
  4. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (references) There are 27 sources on this article. One of them, the Tropical Cyclone Report (TCR) for Hurricane Bud, provides more general information about the storm and is from a trusted source (NHC). Many of the rest are also from the NHC, and are more specific about the evolution of the storm. The sources used for impact and preparations are also reliable (such as trusted newspapers). Pass Pass
    (b) (citations to reliable sources) Citations lead to reliable sources. Pass Pass
    (c) (original research) There is no original research Pass Pass
    (d) (copyvio and plagiarism) There is no copyright violations or plagiarism Pass Pass
  5. Broad in its coverage:
  6. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (major aspects) This article covers all of the aspects of Bud's lifetime as a tropical cyclone. For the information that is available on the storm, its meteorological history is discussed in good depth as well as the impact and preparations. Pass Pass
    (b) (focused) This article is focused Pass Pass
  7. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  8. Notes Result
    This article is neutral and covers the topic without bias Pass Pass
  9. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  10. Notes Result
    The article does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute Pass Pass
  11. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  12. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) All images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales Pass Pass
    (b) (appropriate use with suitable captions) The images are appropriately used with suitable captions Pass Pass

Result

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Result Notes
Pass Pass This article is well-written, has an appropriate amount of images, and covers the lifetime of Hurricane Bud in appropriate depth for the amount of information that there is to work with.

Discussion

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Pre FAC review

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  • Link C4 hurricane in the opening
  • In the 2nd lead sentence, maybe specify the wave emerging from western Africa? It's a big continent
  • I feel like it's extraneous to mention the wave moving over northern South America in the lead
  • Could you indicate what a major hurricane is?
  • Link upwelling
  • Perhaps add something to the sentence when it opens up into a trough, something remnants and the southwest US?
  • The first two sentences of the lead both start with "Bud [verbed]". Could you change up the writing for one of them?
  • "off-shore" - or "offshore"?
  • "hundreds of vehicles were inundated and/or swept away, and a mall was flooded after a canal overflowed" - IDK if "and/or" is proper. Also, the mall bit should be split off, so there's just one sentence about the mall and its damage. Further, the rest of the article mentions both pesos and USD, so I'd do the same here.
  • I saw read up that and/or is a common day usage that shouldn't be used in any kind of writing period (both formal and informal). It became commonly used as a result of laziness. The rest is fixed too. NoahTalk 02:26, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "94 houses and 27 businesses were also flooded. " - don't start a sentence with a number. Also, is this from the canal flooding in Guadalajara?
  • "Ninety passengers had to be evacuated from a train after it became submerged in floodwaters." - is this also Guadalajara?
  • "In Guerrero state, hundreds of grocery stores and homes were flooded." - so not other types of buildings, just homes and grocery stores?
  • "Around 123 businesses in Pie de la Cuesta were damaged by strong waves. " - 123 is awfully exact for "around"
  • "sixty homes " --> "60"
  • In general, the lead is awfully specific about a few examples of the storm's effects. That makes sense if most of the damage occurred in one or two cities. It just stood out to me.
  • "The system had minimal thunderstorm activity or convection" - the "or" here implies that had either/or, not that convection is a synonym for thunderstorm activity
  • "The wave tracked over northern South America and entered the Eastern Pacific Ocean late on June 6." - this should be rewritten so the implication isn't that on June 6 both events happened (unless it went from Columbia to across Central America in a single day)
  • It's weird in the MH that it goes from 6/6, to 6/4, to 6/7.
  • "were located over the western United States and/or Mexico" - I don't think the "or" is needed, and again, I don't think it's formal/proper
  • "and a minimum central pressure of 943 mbar (27.8 inHg) " - both the lead and the infobox is more specific with the rounding for inHg
  • "Bud slowed down significantly while traversing a region of cooler sea surface temperatures and ocean heat content near zero" - the last part seems like it could be scary to a non-expert. It also has no context for what zero is. I don't think the bolded part is needed, but if you do, try reworking it.
  • "The mid and low-levels, with the former traveling quickly to the northeast and the former over the Gulf of California and northwestern Mexico" - I believe this should be "mid- and low-levels", since mid also describes levels. Also, is this the right type of dash used? Also, two "former"s?
  • "became a post-tropical cyclone around 12:00 UTC on June 15 while located about 140 mi (220 km) south-southwest of Huatabampito, Mexico" - is that city Huatabampo by chance? I wanted to check, since it was a redlink (which isn't too useful when referring to distances). If not, maybe say the Sonoran coast or something more tangible.
  • When you mention the watch/warnings, could you add more of a location reference? Just having the cities doesn't say much if people have an idea of what western Mexico is like. Something like "warning from X cities along the Baja California peninsula"
  • The order of color alerts is odd. I'd imagine you'd list from lowest to highest, unless there's some other order?
  • "In Baja California Sur, 167 shelters were established with a combined capacity of 29,500 people and another 113 shelters were able to hold up to 54,000 residents in total." - just to clarify, by "were able to", does that mean the additional shelters were on standby? If they weren't used, I don't think they need to be mentioned so specifically, maybe just "with additional shelters capable of being set up". Or did the "in total" mean across Mexico? Now I'm confused
  • "Medical services were provided at shelters in the Los Cabos municipality by the Mexican and state governments." - is this unusual? I'd imagine most government shelters have some sort of first aid.
  • I get the peak rainfall total in the first impact paragraph, but why the other two?
  • They are the top 3 highest rainfall totals throughout Mexico and the only three reported ones. Given the lack of exact totals from other areas, I saw no harm in including them. NoahTalk 01:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Parks and Gardens personnel used chainsaws to clear roads after multiple trees fell and blocked them." - why is "Gardens" capitalized? Is this some unit?
  • "Four trees fell in the towns of Naranjo, Salagua, Santiago, and Nuevo Cuyutlán" - is that four trees per town?
  • In Guerrero, why aren't the shelter stuff in the preps section?
  • "Floodwaters inundated an unknown number of residences in the town of Petalco. "
  • "Four species of fish died off in the Laguna Negra of Puerto Marques after sewage contaminated the waters following heavy rainfall from Bud." - did the four species go extinct? This sentence seems odd. I suggest starting like "Waters contaminated with sewage killed fish in the Laguna Negra of Puerto Marques."
  • "The waves swept away furniture and caused the short-circuiting of electrical components, almost killing a family." - just gonna leave that there?
  • What are " palapas"?
  • What are " M1 trucks"?
  • "Torrential rains caused flooding on the Ermita Iztapalapa road until its intersection with Ignacio Zaragoza, inundating dozens of vehicles and entrapping the passengers. Local authorities rescued people from their vehicles. At the intersection itself, a patch of flooding at least 330 ft (100 m) long and 1 ft (0.3 m) deep occurred after rainfall caused raw sewage to overflow from drains." - this seems like a lengthy way of describing flooded roads. I'm not disputing the content, but I think it could be condensed a smidge
  • "Heavy rainfall generated currents that swept away a child who was crossing a road in the city." - was this one of the deaths related to the storm?
  • Yes, it was. Bud pasa por México sin causar daños, pero lluvias dejan un muerto en la capital and CNN espanol attributes the rains to Bud. NoahTalk 21:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Schools in La Paz and Los Cabos were set to resume on June 18" - did they? I only ask because the wording says "were set to resume". If unsure, I think the article could do without it.

Overall it's a solid article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:38, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For the damage, you might wanna try AON, if they have anything. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:46, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricanehink: I think I have either replied to or fixed every issue. NoahTalk 02:26, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Noah! It looks good. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:16, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]