Talk:Horned helmet of Henry VIII
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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- ... that the 1514 horned helmet of Henry VIII (pictured) has spectacles and a toothy grimace? "a fixed grimace revealing teeth" from: Kendall, Paul (18 January 2021). Henry VIII in 100 Objects: The Tyrant King Who Had Six Wives. Frontline Books. p. 61. ISBN 978-1-5267-3131-9. and "The mask also sports a pair of spectacles, which heighten its strangeness even more" from: "The 'horned helmet'". Royal Armouries. 9 September 2011. Retrieved 20 October 2021.
- ALT1: ... that the horned helmet of Henry VIII (pictured) was given to the English king in 1514 by Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor? "this particular armet, known as the 'horned helmet' formed part of a piece of armour commissioned by the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian I as a gift for Henry VIII ... it was delivered to Henry during 1514" from:"The 'horned helmet'". Royal Armouries. 9 September 2011. Retrieved 20 October 2021.
- ALT2: ... that the horned helmet of Henry VIII (pictured) is the only surviving part of a full suit of armour given to the English king in 1514 by Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor?As ALT1 plus: "the remainder of the armour no longer exists" from: "The 'horned helmet'". Royal Armouries. 9 September 2011. Retrieved 20 October 2021.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 13:46, 25 October 2021 (UTC).
- New enough, moved to mainspace on day of nomination, subsequent to draft incubation. 2.5x long enough. Article written in neutral manner. Every paragraph in article body has multiple inline citations. Slight problem in that "appearance of the helmet probably saved it from" is directly copied from the source. That's wording that could easily be replaced with original thought. Hook formats within policy. Of those presented, I find ALT0 to be the most interesting, ALT1 to be boring, and ALT2 to be acceptable regarding interest to a broad audience.
ALT2 can not be used because although the fact appears uncited in the lede, it does not appear with a citation in the article body. As the supporting citation is included in the nomination, the article could easily be modified to accommodate this. Not necessary to the promotion of this hook, but it would improve the article.All hooks are neutrally written. QPQ complete. Both images are public domain and display well at small size, my opinion is that the "detail" is more arresting. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:25, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi 78.26, thanks for the review. ALT2 is already mentioned in the main text (check the last two sentences of the first paragraph of the "Description" section) - Dumelow (talk) 21:31, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- You are entirely correct, I just missed it. Just the one phrase (my possibly over-fussiness) to adress. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:40, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi 78.26, and I, in turn, missed your comment about the phrasing! I've had a go at rewording - Dumelow (talk) 21:46, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- You are entirely correct, I just missed it. Just the one phrase (my possibly over-fussiness) to adress. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:40, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi 78.26, thanks for the review. ALT2 is already mentioned in the main text (check the last two sentences of the first paragraph of the "Description" section) - Dumelow (talk) 21:31, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Perfect! Paraphrasing issue rectified, no other issues. This article is good to go and is deserving of main page exposure. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- New enough, moved to mainspace on day of nomination, subsequent to draft incubation. 2.5x long enough. Article written in neutral manner. Every paragraph in article body has multiple inline citations. Slight problem in that "appearance of the helmet probably saved it from" is directly copied from the source. That's wording that could easily be replaced with original thought. Hook formats within policy. Of those presented, I find ALT0 to be the most interesting, ALT1 to be boring, and ALT2 to be acceptable regarding interest to a broad audience.
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