Talk:Hinduism in India

Wiki Education assignment: Honors World Religions

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 22 August 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jad Mada (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Dilrajg2004, Madelgdowski01.

— Assignment last updated by Jad Mada (talk) 05:20, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Jad Mada edits

@Jad Mada: there's a number of problems with your edits diff. In general:

• This article is about Hinduism in India, not about Hinduism in general or the History of Hinduism;
• The WP:LEAD summarizes the article; (condensed) info in the lead should also be in the body of the article;
• When you remove info, you shpuld give a good reason to so so;
• Sources should be WP:RS; you added WP:FRINGE theories.

More specific:

• Edit #1

• Removed sourced info from the lead without explanation;
• Introduced a WP:REDFLAG to the lead:

Hinduism encompasses the different beliefs, practices, traditions, and philosophies that have emerged from the Indian Subcontinent as a result of Aryan religious influence on the indigenous Dravidian people.

Hinduism emerged from the interaction between Brahmanism, local religions, and the sramana movement. Andd the influence was rather the other way round: Vedic priests incorporated local beliefs and customs, to provide religious services, which earned them an income;

• The source, Joshua J. Mark's article on Hinduism in the World History Encyclopedia fails WP:RS. This statement alone is totally out of touch with accepted scholarship:

Some form of the belief system which would become, or at least influence, Hinduism most likely existed in the Indus Valley prior to the 3rd millennium BCE when a nomadic coalition of tribes who referred to themselves as Aryan came to the region from Central Asia. Some of these people, now referred to as Indo-Iranians, settled in the region of modern-day Iran (some of whom came to be known in the West as Persians) while others, now known as Indo-Aryans, made their home in the Indus Valley. The term “Aryan” referred to a class of people, not a race, and meant “free man” or “noble”. The long-standing myth of an “Aryan Invasion” in which Caucasians “brought civilization” to the region is the product of narrow-minded and prejudiced 18th- and 19th-century CE Western scholarship and has long been discredited.

Aryan people reaching the Indus Valley Civilisation in the third millennium BCE... Weren't you a student, you would receive a standard warning for introducing WP:FRINGE theories, and the expectation to be blocked quite soon...

• Edit #2:

• We already have the article on Hinduism; we don't need to repeat the basic tenets of Hinduism here. And if we do, we do it correct: "the importance of uniting the soul (Atman) with the Brahman to achieve moksha and recognize the true essence of existence." In Advaita Vedanta, (Jiv)Atman already is identical with Brahman; in other strands of Hinduism, (Jiv)Atman and Brahman are fundamentally different.

• Edit #3:

• Replaced factual correct info with WP:FRINGE theories. The Hindu synthesis developed after 500 BCE. Joshua J. Mark and R. Ramachandran sprout complete nonsense when thet say that the IVC was a Vedic, Aryan religion. A statement like The excavations and archaeological findings at the Harappan sites indicate that the inhabitants of the ancient Indus River Valley civilization practiced the Ancient Vedic religion prior to the development of Hinduism. needs a pagenumber, and then, still, is nonsense. And no, scholars do not believe that "...around 1500 BCE, the Aryans, a group of nomadic tribes, traveled and settled in the Indus River Valley"; they settled in northwest-India, in the region known as Aryavarta.
• The Khan Academy isn't WP:RS either.
• The caste system is not just about the four varnas; it's real substance lies in the jatis.

I'm really sorry for the effort you put into this work, but it's really unacceptable, as it is off-topic, based on non-WP:RS, and introduces WP:FRINGE theories. Regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 03:56, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Update the census. Elaborate on Hindu history and culture rather than demographics

The Census stated in the first sentence of the article needs to be updated to the 2020 United States census, as it would effect the rest of the statistics stated in the article. Although the article does mention the Partition of India and how it effected Hindus, it overlooks the interaction between Hindus and people of other religions. There are many great sources that provide specific information relevant to the topic, however they should be updated to include the modern census and the Hindu dominated Indian Congress. Hindu oppression is very briefly discussed and left out of the history section. Events such as the Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus is overlooked in many articles. Since majority of the Indian Congress is Hindu, it would be ideal to include influential figures who were also Hindu. On the other hand, the article does an excellent job providing visuals of Hindu temples to indicate that Hinduism is widely available. Lastly, the article is very statistic focused and would benefit from providing context for those numbers and immersing the reader into the culture of Hinduism in India. This can be done by talking or linking traditions and mentioning the huge religious markets in India.

Dilrajg2004 (talk) 23:33, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Missing of a state(Telangana)in india

Telangana is a seperate state which divided from Andra state.it is the result of many people revolting u must include this state 115.99.225.85 (talk) 15:12, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

I assume you are talking about the "Hindu population by States and Territories" list - which is based on the 2011 census. Telangana was created on 2 June 2014, so didn't exist when the 2011 census was taken. Obviously, it will be included when the results of the 2021 Census of India are released - but that may be 1n 2023, 2024 or even later. - Arjayay (talk) 15:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Claim that all Dharmic religions believe in Atman

The introductory paragraph describes the 4 Indian religions as being united by their shared belief in Moksha being the liberation of the Atman.

However, Buddhists do not believe in Atman. For them, Moksha/Nirvana is the realization of Anatman, among other things.

If someone does not clarify this claim, I will delete or replace it. Zoozoor (talk) 15:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Sharp! Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Infobox image Akshardham temple

Dalits or the former untouchables were banned from Swaminarayan temples from the beginning of certain sects. After the Indian Independence in 1947, in order to be exempted from the Bombay Harijan Temple Entry Act of November 1947, which made it illegal for any temple to bar its doors to the previously outcaste communities, the Nar Narayan diocese went to court to claim that they were not 'Hindus', but members of an entirely different religion. Since the sect was not "Hindu", they argued that the Temple Entry Act did not apply to them. The sect did win the case in 1951, which was later overturned by the Indian Supreme court. In light of this history, is this the appropriate image to be placed in such a prominent place?I look forward to comments from fellow editors. Thanks. Jonathansammy (talk) 17:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Also there is not a word on the Swaminarayan sect in the article.That is another reason why the placing of their Akshardham temple image in the Infobox is inappropriate.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 17:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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