Talk:Haryana/Archive 1
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Mythology?
Mythological stories are sold as historical deeds in the history chapter! What is this to be? Hindu-belief is one thing, but here you should stick to facts not fiction.--84.179.86.240 06:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, if you feel that the article is in a bad state, feel free to improve it> This is a wiki so anyone can edit this article including you. Only do remember to cite your sources and follow the Manual of Style and Neutral Point of View policies. Happy editing! Thanks --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 07:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I strongly feel that some kind of archeological research should be taken privately in kurukshetra place rather than depending on Govt. of India as they always doesn't show interest in hinduism related ancient facts.
That is the result why people are using a word called mythology. I hope that would not used soon with the efforts of Wikipedia and international organizations.
Vast majority of the ethnic Hindu population?
I removed this statement because it doesn't make any sense. I have no idea what idea it was trying to convey. If someone does know, then I suggest a rewrite to clarify. Acsenray 14:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Today, Haryana has the vast majority of the ethnic Hindu population.
- It means that when the original Punjab split into two, Haryana retained the majority (65% ish I think) of the Hindu population. It needs clarification though. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 14:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I strongly feel that some kind of archeological research should be taken privately in kurukshetra place rather than depending on Govt. of India as they always doesn't show interest in hinduism related ancient facts.
That is the result why people are using a word called mythology. I hope that would not used soon with the efforts of Wikipedia and international organizations.
Template for Collaboration
Great to see my home state as COTW! The template from Wikiproject Indian States should be helpful in expanding the articles. I will see if I can find some photographs in my collection. --Longhairandabeard 08:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Punjabi
Is Punjabi the second official language of Haryana like it is in Delhi? I'm not so sure and I cannot find information on this online. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 10:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yup it is, since 2004.. Found it in good ol' Tribune. [1] --Longhairandabeard 15:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Pics
Found one that may be useful:
This is the second medical college of Haryana, although it is not recognized yet by the Medical Council of India.
- Is this really the flag of Haryana as claimed in the picture's description? --Longhairandabeard 08:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- I would seriously doubt that. --Soman 10:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Found some more.. --Longhairandabeard 04:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- I would seriously doubt that. --Soman 10:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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Commercial buildings in Gurgaon
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Apartment buildings in Gurgaon
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The Battle of Mahabharata at Kurukshetra
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Nestle's office in Gurgaon
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Gurgaon's panorama
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Kala Teetar (Francolinus francolinus), State Bird of Haryana
Map
Hey! The map does not indicate the location of Haryana. It is a blank map to be edited as to indicate the locations of the respective states. (I don't know how to do that work properly, unfortunately.) Cheers, Krankman 06:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have replaced the old map. The Wikiproject Indian Maps is working on creating locator maps for all states. Once they create one for Haryana, it can be replaced here. -- Longhairandabeard 15:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Hindu Population Incorrect
According to the official census of India (http://www.censusindia.net/religiondata/), the Hindu proportion of Haryana is 88% Hindu, 5.8% Muslim, and 5.5% Sikh. This is from an actual source. I would like to see if others agree before I make the change. I think for all Indian articles, when reporting religious demographics, we should use the Census of India rather than unofficial sources. -amitroy5
- I changed it to the source (http://www.censusindia.net/religiondata/). Parihav 15:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:HaryanaSeal.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Carrefour Head Office in Gurgaon
Group Carrefour, A french retailer, who is second largest of the world. It has a registered office in Gurgaon (HARYANA)Carrefour, has 3 main company in Gurgaon 1. Carrefour WC & C PVt. Ltd, Carrefour Master Frenchise and Carrefour Trading Asia.
Carrefour is plan to open his stores (Hyper and Cash Carry) in INDIA in Next year. The company has deside to open his Head office in Gurgaon itself —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.77.224.133 (talk) 12:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Reference 3 must be checked
Reference 3 cite a Haryana govt website that claims some statistical figure that doesn't sounds correct.The site doen't give any references or sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel pandian (talk • contribs) 18:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism
There has been vandalism in the history section in Haryana. The Indus valley civilization period and the ancient period has been erased. Dewan S. Ahsan 12:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Films in the "Demographics" section??
Out of the blue, in the middle of the "Demographics" section, this discussion about a couple of Haryanvi movies. It's totally out of place and it's also got an inappropriate tone for an encyclopedia, and it doesn't cite any sources. --Hnsampat (talk) 15:52, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Too many images
There are too many images in the article and the structure of the article goes improper. There comes huge gap between paragraphs and also most of the images added are of Gurgoan, If some one has images from other parts, please contribute but please add them in a proper way so that structure does not get disturbed also I have seen some of the editors reverting edits when i removed some of non-useful images claiming as Vandalism, understand that it is not Vandalism, There are uneccessary images disturbing the structure and needs to removed, there is no space on the article. --Shekhartagra (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hello, you removed images saying it disturbed structure of article BUT thats the case of your computer screen and screen resolution ! On my and other editors computer screen it looks nice, so I reverted your edits as it seem unconstructive !
It has been tried on standard resolution on 800 X 600 and 1024 X 768 and 1152 X 864, it is still the same and yeah there is a huge gap between paragraphs, check this and only then add the images again and adding too many images dont make any sense, it is not an image gallery, stop putting irrelevant info by using 'Jat' in image, it is totally irrelevant .--Shekhartagra (talk) 10:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC) Now,
regarding your removal of (Jats) word from the discription of my newly added pic in agriculture section. The original name of image is "Green farms of Jats in haryana" and in discription also it mentions it as jat farmhouse, so your removal of word (Jats) from that image discription is a clear pov and is now reverted.thanks-- Last Emperor (talk) 19:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
How do you know they are farms of Jats..What are you putting here ? Casteism!!! and stop doing that, Wikipedia is not the property of some cast or something whre yu upload the image and name it 'Farms of Jats' and then put into the article and yeah I can see reason for putting word 'Jat' because I can see on your page that you are a Jat !!!!
Use Wikipedia for spreading free knowledge not FALSE knowledge and casteism!!
--Shekhartagra (talk) 10:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- O hello, have a look at image description before putting your statement here. In discription that pic shows metadata and I think it is well known that copied images dont show metadata...so that proves image is real and captured by my camera ! Funny to say Im using castesim... Can u explain how ? This pic is a view from my farmhouse (here we call it dhani) and as you know Im a Jat than what is castesism in calling "farms of Jats" as Jats farms in wikipedia ? (In this way you cant call homosapiens, humans and Indians-Indians on wiki...and if you do...will that be called castesism ?) For more info. this pic is taken at our farms near Ding road, 17 km from fatehabad and 30 km from Sirsa and 4 km from punjab border. You can conferm that in Google earth if you want.
Well if you still think I falsly uploaded that image than you can try indulging any admin into this matter, im fine with that as I know I did nothing wrong anywhere . Thanks-- Last Emperor (talk) 12:01, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Does Google earth registers land also???? Is google earth a registry software?? Is it gonna show these farms belomg to Jats? and if they belong to Jats or any community, there is no point and its totaly irrelevant to put there that these are farms of Jats ...You dont get this point until I put some Wikipedia guidline policy tag over there and get it deleted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shekhartagra (talk • contribs) 07:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC) --Shekhartagra (talk) 07:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
(moved out of discussion above since it is from a different user and not directly related.) Interesting is that most of the images are from Gurgaon where it is the sixth largest city in Haryana. The Galaxy hotel is shown as a shopping mall. I stayed there on my trip, it is not a mall though there is some shopping, that is there are some stores in there but basically it is a five star hotel. http://www.galaxyhotel.in/
References
Why jat caste publicity on haryana page Are there only Jats living in Haryana? ==
farmers in haryana are of many communities including Dalits, Kambojs and Sainis then why only pictures of jats , jat farms (without any proof) has been mentioned on this page .Is haryana owned by jats? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.138.72 (talk) 06:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 117.198.138.72, 17 May 2010
117.198.138.72 (talk) 06:38, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
British Period
Pran Sukh Yadav (1802–1888) was an extraordinary military commander of his time. He was a close friend of Hari Singh Nalwa and famous Punjab ruler Maharaja Ranjit Singh.In his early career he trained Sikh Khalsa army. After the death of Maharaja Ranjit Singh he fought in both the First and Second Anglo-Sikh Wars, due to his extreme hatred towards Britishers after the defeat of Sikhs he started giving military training to the farmers of Narnaul and Mahendragarh region.The name of the State of Haryana may have been derived from its ancient inhabitants: Abhirayana. The name `Abhira` may stem from a-bhira meaning fearless.[1]
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- I can't do this, because a) these do not appear to be reliable sources (such as newspapers with editorial control and a reputation for fact-checking), and b) it does not confurm to a neutral point-of-view, with words such as 'extrodinary', 'a close friend', famous', etc. Sorry, Chzz ► 09:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Not done
Recent Revert
Hello, I was recently reverted by a user who removed the fact that Haryana is a part of the greater Punjab region. Per his request, I have begun a discussion related to this issue. Two sources that attest to this fact are the The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company, which states that the Punjab region is
A historical region of the northwest Indian subcontinent bounded by the Indus and Yamuna rivers. It was a center of the prehistoric Indus Valley civilization and after c. 1500 b.c. the site of early Aryan settlements. Muslims occupied the western part of the region by the 8th century, introducing Islam, and although they later conquered the eastern part, Hinduism remained entrenched there. The Moguls brought the region to cultural eminence until their empire declined in the 18th century. The Punjab was controlled by Sikhs from 1799 to 1849, when it was annexed by Great Britain. It was partitioned between India and Pakistan in 1947.
Another reputable source, The encyclopedia Americana, Volume 23 states that the Punjab region "extends between the Indus River on the west, in Pakistan, and the Yamuna (Jumna) River on the east, in India." The Pakistani province of Punjab and the Indian states of Punjab, Haryana, and Himachal Pradesh, and Delhi fall under this historical Punjab region, spreading from the Indus to the Yamuna. A final scholarly source, The Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, states "In India, ethnic Punjabis can be found across the greater Punjab region which now comprises the states of Punjab, Haryana and Himachal Pradesh and the Union Territories of Chandigarh and Delhi." Any comments on this issue would be appreciated so that this critical fact can be reinserted into the article. Thanks, AnupamTalk 07:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- References says "(the Indian states of Punjab, Haryana, and Himachal Pradesh, and Delhi fall under this historical Punjab region)". "Historical punjab region" means it WAS part of punjab region IN HISTORY ! and we all know it was, see--Punjab (British India).. until 1966 when haryana was carved out of punjab, since then (last 44 yrs) it is an independent state. Your additions are ok, but they dont say haryana is part of punjab region CURRENTLY so adding that info. in lead section is misleading to readers. My suggestion will be to add that information in [history section (Formation of Haryana)] in accordance with wiki policies.thanks-- Last Emperor (talk) 09:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- I have no problem mentioning the adverb "historical" before the term "Punjab region." However, you must realize that this is still a region. The latter reference states that "the Punjab region now comprises." I still think the mention warrants inclusion in the introduction and I will model my edit after the Lucknow article which states that it is historically located in the Awadh region. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 16:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- I hadn't realized this when I initially reverted, but there appears to be more political nuances around this "greater Punjab" bit, with apparently some sort of Hindu-Muslim-Sikh angle around the time of states reorganization. That said, the new reference seems ok, although I find it strange that in all the gbooks pieces that I've gone through, this is the only book that actually says this.—SpacemanSpiff 17:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- While this may be a reference that makes the insertion explicit, the other two references support the insertion. There are no other states that fall in between the Indus and the Yamuna, besides those mentioned in the latter reference. If there are no other objections, I will reinsert the material with the new sourcing. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 18:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- There is only one ref that says "the Punjab region now comprises." of haryana and thats the last one. Try to provide multiple refs for proving its still a region as "Extraordinary claim req. extraordinary proof" and if you want than I can provide you with thousands of refs claiming Haryana as an independant state after 1966 and it is .It says ethnic punjabis can be found in greater punjab region icl. Haryana but does'nt mention abt. their percentage, actually there are more punjabis in Canada than in Haryana and Himachal. Of Haryana's total population so called ethnic punjabis of greater punjab constitutes only 6-7 %(inc. Sikhs) and if on that % you will claim Haryana than you will definetly never succeed. About partition, It did'nt happened because of religion, the main reason of partition of Haryana and Himachal from punjab was the language. Punjab means the punjabi speaking area and Haryana, Himachal does'nt qualify as they are dominantly hindi speaking (and its dialicts) area .-- Last Emperor (talk) 00:44, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- I am not making an extraordinary claim. I understand that Haryana is an independent state. However, it is a part of the greater Punjab region. This is referenced in the three sources above and is similar to how Lucknow is a part of the Awadh region albeit it is in the state of Uttar Pradesh. Per WP:RS, I am reinserting the material into the article. Thanks, AnupamTalk 06:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Ok then, add it but dont forget to add "historical" adverb to it + I suggest you to create a new section in Punjab region article named "Greater Punjab" and add this historical info. there too.Good luck-- Last Emperor (talk) 07:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
There exits an article named Punjabi Suba. Shyamsunder (talk) 04:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Haryana was made a part of Punjab by the British for political reasons
Dear all, I see this discussion has been going on for a while. But we must all realize that whatever we are trying to say "is history" should actually reconcile with historical facts. Let us examine the names, Haryana and Punjab. Haryana is a pretty much "Indic" name with clear etymology from Sanskrit or Prakrit or even Haryanvi for that matter. The name Haryana finds a clear historical mention in the Tomar dynasty's era. So, we can conclude that even though the name might be historically much older, the earliest known reference can be fixed in 11th century AD.
That is as far as Haryana is concerned. Now, considered the name Punjab. It is very very prominently a non-Indic name. The clearest etymology follows from Persian where "aab" means water. That is how the name translates to "five waters" or "five rivers" for that matter. Clearly this name is a rather new name and cannot predate the Turkic invasion of India near 1200 AD. It definitely makes sense that since this was the gateway for the Turks into India, they named it or rather their courtiers (who were many a times Persian) named it.
The conclusion from the above analysis is that Haryana is an older name than Punjab historically. So, it would be foolhardy to say that Haryana was historically a part of the greater Punjab region. That can be said with certainty only about the British era, when after the revolt of 1857, the British intentionally merged Haryana region into Greater Punjab. The main reason being that the Haryana area had proved a major trouble spot whereas Punjab had fully sided with the British in that revolt. Thus, the British not only merged Haryana into Punjab but even re-located many bad elements from the Punjab area to keep the local unrest under check. Lot of these British agents still live in several villages of Haryana. 112.79.223.85 (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Please provide a source that states exactly what you are inserting in the article. My insertion is supported by three scholarly sources and should remain in the article per WP:V and WP:RS. If you are unable to do this, your edits will be reverted. With regards, AnupamTalk 16:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Pasanaha Chariu of Vibudh Shridhar (VS 1189-1230) an Apabhramsha writer, provides the first reference to the legend of the origin of the name Dhilli for Delhi[1].
हरियाणए देसे असंखगाम, गामियण जणि अणवरथ काम|
परचक्क विहट्टणु सिरिसंघट्टणु, जो सुरव इणा परिगणियं|
रिउ रुहिरावट्टणु बिउलु पवट्टणु, ढिल्ली नामेण जि भणियं|
Translation: There are countless villages in Haryana country. The villagers there work hard. They don't accept domination of others, and are experts in making the blood of their enemies flow. Indra himself praises this country. The capital of this country is Dhilli.
Haryana was merged into Punjab only after 1857. That does not qualify for a sweeping statement that Haryana was historically a part of Greater Punjab region. Only true for British times in India. Rorkadian (talk) 16:56, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- As a compromise, I will remove the term "Punjab region" from the lead and place it juxtaposed with the information about the National Capital Region. This should be satisfying to both of us. With regards, AnupamTalk 17:12, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure that this compromise is fine, quite honestly, there's only one source that supports your addition, and the others have some loose definition (Btw, the Yamuna goes on till Allahabad, so does that mean that Uttarakhand, Central UP and Rajasthan also fall under greater Punjab?). I'm reconsidering my original opinion.—SpacemanSpiff 03:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- One thing we know for sure is that Delhi lies on the banks of the Yamuna and was surely a part of the British Indian Punjab. The same cannot be said of Allahabad, which is historically a part of the Lower Doab region. Even famous social networks such as Facebook show the Pakistani province of Punjab, the Pakistani Hazara region of NWFP, the Indian states of Himachal Pradesh, Punjab, Haryana, and the National Capital Region of Delhi as a part of the Punjab region. Attempting to erase this is akin to rewriting history. With regards, AnupamTalk 06:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- Anupam, very clearly your frame of reference is the British Indian Punjab as you have mentioned above. The British Indian era is a recent historical happening and quite obviously the Greater Punjab region you are trying to protect was a historical creation of the British. If we (other users and myself) are trying to highlight older history, which stayed true for much longer than 100-200 years of British India, then that is not equivalent to rewriting history. In fact, you are doing a great injustice to the ancient Kuru Janapada and the brave peoples of Haryana by trying to belittle their historical identity. Rorkadian (talk) 06:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- One thing we know for sure is that Delhi lies on the banks of the Yamuna and was surely a part of the British Indian Punjab. The same cannot be said of Allahabad, which is historically a part of the Lower Doab region. Even famous social networks such as Facebook show the Pakistani province of Punjab, the Pakistani Hazara region of NWFP, the Indian states of Himachal Pradesh, Punjab, Haryana, and the National Capital Region of Delhi as a part of the Punjab region. Attempting to erase this is akin to rewriting history. With regards, AnupamTalk 06:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure that this compromise is fine, quite honestly, there's only one source that supports your addition, and the others have some loose definition (Btw, the Yamuna goes on till Allahabad, so does that mean that Uttarakhand, Central UP and Rajasthan also fall under greater Punjab?). I'm reconsidering my original opinion.—SpacemanSpiff 03:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The very first line says it is a state in Kuru region of North India. I dont know who inserted that but FYI at present and constitutionaly there doesnt exist any Kuru region, Historicaly is the word which should come before it, I have edited this info and correct info is "Its a state in India and Historicaly belongs to Kuru region of North India". I request editors to review there text before placing in the article, Wikipedia is accessed by millions, your wrong info can create false knowledge among people, Haryana is a state in kuru region in North India does not make any sense consitutionaly since Haryana is formed and its boundaries are defined by Government of India. What Kautalaya had mentioned in his texts does not defined its boundaries it justs mentions the name and also if you consider that then its capital is DILLI!!. Please edit only after reviewing your information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shekhartagra (talk • contribs) 09:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Inclusion of kamboj's in article of haryana
IT IS VERY HEART BREAKING TO NOT SEE KAMBOJ'S IN THE ARTICLE OF HARYANA. PEOPLE LOOK UPON WIKIPEDIA FOR KNOWING ABOUT SOMETHING. AT LEAST KAMBOJ'S DESERVES TO BE IN THIS ARTICLE. THEY CONSTITUTE ABOUT 3% OF HARYANA'S POPULATION. STILL THEY ARE NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE. BY READING THE ARTICLE IT SEEMS THAT IT HAS BEEN CREATED BY A JAT EHO THINKS HARYANA IS ALL ABOUT JATS, JATS AND ONLY JATS. ITS VERY HEARTBREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.207.51.77 (talk) 09:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
- Kamboj has now been included. Thanks Rorkadian (talk) 04:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Intelisence, 4 July 2010
History between 1961 (Capture by Moghuls) to 1848 (British Raj) is missing.
This is because the capture of Ahmed Shah Abdali (also called Ahmad Shah Durrani) by Jassa Singh Ahluwalia led to Haryana being a part of the Ahluwalia Misl (see Decline and the Sikhs @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Durrani#Decline_and_the_Sikhs). After the time of the Sikh Misls (1716 to 1799) of Northern India, where the rule of Northern Indian and the Punjab Sub-Continent (also called Greater Region of Punjab by the British) was divided between the five misldaars (leaders) of the Sikhs (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misl), the misls where soon united by Maharaja Ranjit Singh (who was a leader of the Sukerchakia misl since the age of 13) into one big empire (called the Sikh Empire). Therefore until the Second Anglo-Sikh War, Haryana was indeed a part of the Sikh Empire until the Second Anglo Sikh War (1848). Therefore the fact that Hariyana was "included" in the Greater Punjab region after the "British Raj" is totally obsurd, because otherwise Hariyana's history between 1961 and 1848 will have to be totally ignored (as it is in the present wikipedia article, therefore the article needs to be edited to include the above mentioned facts).
Intelisence (talk) 14:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Dear Intelisence, it is no point trying to project a Fascist point of view on wikipedia. If you want to say on the Haryana page that Great Punjab dominated it for centuries, then we must also put in on the Punjab page that all through history right up to Turkic invasions of India, the state of present-day Punjab was ruled by people from the Kuru Kingdom (Haryana) and even the last ruler of Lahore right before Ghori's invasion was from Prithvi Raj Chauhan's family, which had a strong base in Tarain, Haryana. If you wish to indulge in such Fascist battles, then I really don't mind. Regards Rorkadian (talk) 04:10, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. SpigotMap 13:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Virender Sehwag is from najafgarh village in delhi not from haryana? please correct photo.............??????????????
Virender Sehwag From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Virender Sehwag About this sound pronunciation (help·info) (Hindi: वीरेंद्र सेहवाग) (born 20 October 1978, in Delhi, India), —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.138.116 (talk) 15:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
All those guys in wikipedia let me tell you this page about haryana is governed by some "JAT CASTE" people who have made this page a publicity for their JAT caste......and all pages are semi protected by them and only they can update or edit anything.WIKIPEDIA DO SOMETHING..MANY LINES HERE ARE BIAS .
This page has been semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Priyachoudhary (talk • contribs) 07:29, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 115.242.104.150, 24 October 2010
{{edit semi-protected}} As Rohtak is a very old City, which is famous as "Education Hub". Its an ancient city famous for "Gurukuls". A new IIMR ( Indian Institute of Management, Rohtak) has started functioning from 2010. Its an another step of Haryana state to the quality management education. Some of other reputed Institutes, which have started or the work in progress to setup their campuses in Haryana. These are: Institute of Film & Television, Rohtak Institute of Fine Arts, Rohtak Indian Institute of Footwear Design, Rohtak
115.242.104.150 (talk) 19:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Not done Please cite a reliable source. T. Canens (talk) 05:02, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ghazi Saiyyad Salar Masud —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.101.155.250 (talk) 07:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
http://stbjp.msn.com/i/9A/4862CE3A5203ADA89ACEB6B81044.jpg manoj kumar gold medal winner cwg 2010 ROR boy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaudharyankit99 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
The entire Haryana article reads embarassingly like a promotional tourist brochure.
Consider this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13125674 April, 19th, 2011, India: "widows battered to death in the state of Haryana. Haryana is a deeply conservative and patriarchal region. Correspondents say that so-called ‘honour killings’ are relatively common in the area. A man said he had killed his aunt and an other woman to protect his ‘family's honour.’ He accused them of a lesbian relationship. He dragged them into the village street and beat them to death as frightened villagers watched. He was on parole for rape." 173.210.125.42 (talk) 19:14, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Incomplete
There is no information on major social problems like female foeticide, drugs, illegal emigration to western countries, honour killings. Punjab/Haryana regions are the worst hit and well known for these problems. --David Fraudly (talk) 07:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Removal of castes from the article
When people look at this article they get stunned by seeing how much casteism is going on in this article. I saw how at least 10 different castes are described as different ethnic groups. In the sports column the players are not described as players of haryana but instead shown as "born in Jat family" or "born in an Ror family". It looks like this article has become an platform for advertising caste system prevalent in Haryana.look at the Punjab, India article , it was recently praised for being cast free article. i am here requesting all the editors to build up a consensus on removal of all castes from this article. and let us create a secular and decent Haryana article.Garvitkamboj (talk) 17:42, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
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Highly disrespecting
Backward people, old believes, women raped, Haryanvi is not a official language!? Why would you insult our beloved state like that?.........what on earth are you talking about?????
Are you trying to make us look bad in front of the whole world?
Person who owns the copyright for this article needs to be responsible and make immediate changes to meet the best description of our state Haryana. If everything is in your knowledge and you are not making changes to it you are misrepresentation our beloved Haryana. I tried to take religious and political part out of it so many times but as I do not have copyrights, so it is changed to previous edition automatically.
Please try to understand and be respectful to people of Haryana. Take all political language out of it. We don't want our state to be a played out and divided for your Political Promotion of a Religion. Write the name in Hindi which is mother language of India and that's how we write Haryanvi as well, and then world's most spoken language which you are reading now, English. No other political crap, please!
Haryana is known because of its own distinction and its own style. People of Haryana are incredible. We are respectful and peaceful. Haryanvi people are known for their honesty, kindness, modesty, hospitality, for being able to reap a harvest from desert, for being dexterous and no matter what or who, nothing stands them.
Haryana is diamond preserved by Haryanvi people :) If you (editor for writing political crap on our page) have a problem, you are a problem.
But worry not, we can solve it. Send me an email at haltejas0091@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.177.201 (talk) 10:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
History of Haryana name
Kutte k haad Hindi and English te sivaye Haryana ka naam or language me kyun likhta hai tu behanchod? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy saab of auckland (talk • contribs) 21:10, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Haryana: on high road to prosperity
Tourism management: problems and prospects By Bijender K Punia
Bansi Lal, chief minister of Haryana By S. R. Bakshi, Sita Ram Sharma
Religions and communities of India
Encyclopaedia of the Hindu world, Volume 1 By Gaṅgā Rām Garg
Education
I made some inclusions with references and made changes to reflect mroe comprehensive and up-to-date information. Vdhillon (talk) 18:05, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Please do not remove my sections about Urdu writers from Haryana
Dear Friends, Please do not remove the bits about Urdu writers who lived in what we now call Haryana. These include some of the greatest names in Urdu literature ( Altaf Hussain 'Hali' of Panipat, for example). These writers are as much a part of the state's heritage as Swami Ramdev and Samrat Hemu. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarunpant (talk • contribs) 07:40, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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New official language act in Haryana is only Hindi not Punjabi Harshaaaa (talk) 17:19, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
I am removing virendra sehwag picture as he is from Delhi not Haryana and this page is for haryana not jats.
I am removing virendra sehwag picture as he is from Delhi not Haryana and this page is for haryana not jats.
Refrence:- Virender Sehwag About this sound pronunciation (help·info) (Hindi: वीरेंद्र सेहवाग) (born 20 October 1978, in Delhi, India), affectionately known as Viru,— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
Very good
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Hindi name should be हरयाणा instead of हरियाणा. That's how it is pronounced. Anilduttrathee21 (talk) 05:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Done! Thank you for pointing that out. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 09:42, 23 December 2016 (UTC).
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Hello @Utcursch:,
Is this link article reliable? I understand that DNA is a reliable source but the article explicitly mentions Punjabi as an upper-caste when in reality it is an ethnicity. A big percentage of Punjabis are Jats and Dalits. I wonder if this article is part of some propaganda. I seriously doubt the credibility of this article.
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- Not sure, probably they mean "Punjabi upper castes"? utcursch | talk 17:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Utcursch:, Yup, the Punjabi here seems ambiguous. I've placed an additional citation needed tag - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:38, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Performance of Sportspersons from Haryana
The page does not include the performance by sportspersons from Haryana in the recently concluded CWG 2018 games. See this link[2]. Anil1iitr (talk) 21:29, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
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Please update the university education section with the latest 2018-19 data as follows:
With at least 48 universities and 1038 colleges 2018-19, Haryana has 33 colleges comparde to national average of 28 per lakh population in the 18-23 age group.[3] Haryana also has more females (471,000 or 50.77%) than male (457,000 or 49.23%) pursuing post-secondary school higher education.[3] There are more women teachers (18,616) in higher education than men (17,061).[3]
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Pictures are updated in right format please don't change.
Pictures are updated in right format please don't change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumitkachroo (talk • contribs) 06:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Sex Ratio Data
Sex Ratio in India is Counted as Numbers of Females per 1000 Males of the population. But, the Wikipedia shows it as female over male so it should be .879 or 879. In Dighal village of Jhajjar, Haryana, the highest sex ratio at birth was recorded from January to September 2019. 568 boys and 545 girls were born in the village, bringing its sex ratio at birth to 960 girls per 1,000 males. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prymshbmg (talk • contribs) 09:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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Haryana is derived from the name of renowned king Hariray singh Rana who was a late king of chauhan dynasty established by Delhi king Anandpal Singh Tomar. 2405:205:2300:8FEA:9245:6EED:20FA:DB9A (talk) 07:16, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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Haryana area is 20th according to area wise Luckshay2020 (talk) 13:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update the GDP data in the infobox and in the lead section. Correct (2019-20) GDP to 8.31 lakh and GDP per capita to 264,206. Source already given in the infobox. @Goldsztajn:. Thanks--103.218.236.50 (talk) 14:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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References
- ^ An Early Attestation of the Toponym Ḍhillī, by Richard J. Cohen, Journal of the American Oriental Society, 1989, p. 513-519
- ^ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/off-the-field/22-medals-at-the-commonwealth-games-what-makes-haryana-indias-sports-nursery/articleshow/63951375.cms
- ^ a b c A first: Haryana has more women than men pursuing higher education. The Tribune India, 24 Sept 2019.
- ^ "MOSPI Net State Domestic Product, Ministry of Statistics and Programme Implementation, Government of India". Retrieved 7 April 2020.
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change http://www.haryana.gov.in/knowharyana/haryanaglance.html to https://shop.bajajelectricals.com/home?utm_source=Wikipedia&utm_medium=Link_Click&utm_campaign=Haryana_05_Feb_2021 Wigzot (talk) 10:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
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haryana ranked 21 in terms of area
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Reference to the Shaw Commission
Is there support for the statement “The Indian government set up the Shah Commission under the chairmanship of Justice JC Shah on 23 April 1966 to divide the existing state of Punjab and determine the boundaries of the new state of Haryana after consideration of the languages spoken by the people”? It appears to be inconsistent with other articles on wikipedia. JC Shaw was not a chief justice until after 1966. A commission that he led in 1976 is referred to as the Shaw Commission. 99.246.13.167 (talk) 21:09, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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Sports section adding of neeraj chopra and and history of maratha caste
Hello I have added image of Neeraj chopra under sports section why you removed that can you explain...
Also Ror maratha is caste in haryana descendants of Maratha those fought with afgans and later on scattered in haryana provided reference for you knowledge kindly add in history section
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/260-years-after-third-battle-of-panipat-history-weighs-heavy-on-ror-marathas-as-they-join-fight-for-farmers-7111722/lite/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by HR08MNDRI (talk • contribs) 11:53, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Haryana ka khaana add krdo Gevar or Phirni or Churma tum paan gutka naa add kro
Churma and Gevar and Phirni is a dish that is very significantly eaten by Haryanvi and part of Haryanvi cuisine..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghevar
Food of Haryana: The Great Desserts Dahiya, Ashish (2013). Food of Haryana: The Great Desserts (PDF). IHTM-MDU / MDU Rohtak. ISBN 978-93-81818-13-5. Retrieved 7 April 2019. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churma HR08MNDRI (talk) 12:02, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Header formatting
Much of the header is incorrectly formatted, with the actual beginning of the article being well down on the page. 100.36.99.188 (talk) 01:06, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- The edits from the previous day appear to have messed up the article. They have been reverted now [2]. – Uanfala (talk) 12:16, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Infobox replacement
The {{Infobox settlement}} used on this page is going to be replaced with {{Infobox Indian state or territory}} as per the Proposal and Consensus of RFC. Any questions/suggestions? Discuss Here.
You can also contribute by replacing Infobox settlement with Infobox Indian state or territory on other pages , or by improving this one. Tojoroy20 (talk) 07:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done Replaced — Tojoroy20 (talk) 21:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Official language of Haryana state is Hindi and Haryanvi language
Haryanvi language is also a official language of Haryana state in India Poon Singh ka (talk) 18:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Because Haryanvi language is widely spoken in Haryana state of India Poon Singh ka (talk) 18:23, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Being "widely spoken" does not make it an official language - you need to quote reliable sources that state it is "official" - Arjayay (talk) 19:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sir you should add Official as Hindi and English as they were the first one and widely used. Additional official in Punjabias spoken by around 8% of population in haryana and was added later.
- Also write in Spoken Haryanvi as this may help travellers
- This is not compulsory but if you wish you can add regional languages: deshwali, bangaru, bagri, hariani, ahirwati, braj bhasha, puadhi, mewati Bugod (talk) 08:07, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Being "widely spoken" does not make it an official language - you need to quote reliable sources that state it is "official" - Arjayay (talk) 19:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Writing Script hansi fort and Images
Hi admin I am native from haryana, gurmukhi script is indeed official script but it is hardly used anywhere except gurudwaras. Add the devnagari script and Latin script as they are widely used everywhere on boards newspapers etc, it will help the travellers to know before coming. Also change the name aasi garh fort is not used people just call it and know by the name of hansi fort, it will depict its location by its name. If you want you can Add panipat battle too as it was part of haryana history. Thank you very much Vipsocemlo (talk) 15:32, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Nayab Saini
Please write it as Nayab Saini which is his actual name to avoid confusion for Chief Minister as Singh is not his last name but middle name 2409:4051:2EC3:F511:BEAF:C765:84A6:C83D (talk) 06:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Used the full name as in the article - Nayab Singh Saini. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC)