Talk:Hana Kimura
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Day of death
[edit]According to a Variety article and multiple other sources, she died on May 22nd.[1], [2], [3] MikaelaArsenault (talk) 09:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- If we look at https://www.f4wonline.com/japan/hana-kimura-passes-away-22-years-old-311631 the report by Dave Meltzer says it was published "May 22, 2020 11:11 pm"
- Similarly the Stedman article from https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/hana-kimura-dead-dies-terrace-house-wrestler-1234614910/ you linked states "May 22, 2020 11:02pm PT"
- I'm not sure what Time Zone that Meltzer would date his articles by, but PT (Pacific Time) is UTC-8 normally (UTC-7 when it is daylight savings, also called PDT) so the Stedman article would've been published at May 23rd at 7:02am UTC, or possibly 6:02am UTC if Variety neglected to note Daylight Savings.
- Could that possibly explain this discrepency? Her body was found in Tokyo and Japan Standard time is UTC+9 meaning in Japan it would have been 4:02pm or 5:02pm when the Stedman report from Variety came out. This basically I think means that it could be the afternoon of May 23rd of Japan when we got reports of her death but at that time it is still considered to be the night of May 22nd in the United States? WakandaQT (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Is it today?
[edit]Even though I never knew her, it's sad that she died today*.
- I live on the opposite side of the world (Southeast Asia). So, that means the date of her death may be yesterday. Emotioness Expression (talk) 12:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
I've been reading several articles that say she died yesterday as well. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
add cyberbully section
[edit]People had been cyberbullying her for months, which led to her suicide Epicgamespro (talk) 20:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- It’s now included in the Terrace House section, where the origins began. Wyliepedia @ 00:01, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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The translation for Hana's final tweet is really bad. This is better
Nearly 100 frank opinions every day. I couldn't deny they hurt me. "Die", "you are disgusting", "you should disappear" I believed these things about myself more than they did. Thank you mother for the gift of life. My whole life I wanted to be loved. Thank you to everyone who supported me. I love you all. Im sorry for being weak. 80.43.37.182 (talk) 22:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JTP (talk • contribs) 22:50, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
How so you provide a source of you translated it yourself? If we would take news sources, that each source each other, we would have quite a ridiculously translated quote. Shendoah (talk) 04:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Report of death
[edit]The article claims she was found with a plastic bag covering her head and that there was a bottle of hydrogen sulfide nearby. However, the source cited does not confirm either of these claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8880:8B60:88F2:141F:F946:B0FA (talk) 12:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
I think the coverage of her death here is unsatisfactory. Care and caution are more than usually necessary in covering such matters for a recently deceased person, and we should base every statement on the most reliable sources we can find.
I suggest that the current contents of "Death" be replaced by something like:
- Kimura died on May 23, 2020; the cause is uncertain. Reports of her death referred to recent social media posts by her that had been interpreted as referring to online bullying.
- BBC News Online: "Hana Kimura: Netflix star and Japanese wrestler dies at 22" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-52782235 (accessed 24 May 2020 09L04 UTC)
I have intentionally left the source unformatted so it can be examined/challenged, and have no objection to it being supplemented or replaced by sources of equal or greater quality. I have also not made the change to the page directly, having had no part in its editing so far. But I commend it to those who are editing actively. -- PaulBetteridge (talk) 09:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Dave Meltzer has it as a hydrogen sulfide suicide, Kairi Sane has discovery details, but I can't copy or paste, Google it? InedibleHulk (talk) 02:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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