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[edit][...] the only president in American history to serve two nonconsecutive terms in office from 1885 to 1889 and from 1893 to 1897.
A COMMA (or a colon) SHOULD BE INSERTED - AFTER THE WORD "OFFICE." Otherwise, the sentence appears to be claiming that Cleveland was the only president to serve two nonconsecutive terms IN THOSE PERIODS OF TIME.
Andrew Johnson
[edit]I notice that the article says that Cleveland “was one of two Democrat presidents, followed by Woodrow Wilson in 1912, in an era when Republicans dominated the presidency between 1861 and 1933”. Why doesn’t Andrew Johnson count? He was registered with the Democratic Party while he was president. Opportunity Rover (talk) 21:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Johnson was elected with the National Union Party. Dimadick (talk) 00:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- True, but he was still a registered Democrat, as he had been for decades. When he was President, he was seen as a Democrat president. He fought the Republicans, which culminated in the Republican Congress impeaching him. Also, he tried to get nominated by the Democratic Party for reelection.
- I suppose from a certain perspective, the sentence in the article is true, but it seems misleading. Opportunity Rover (talk) 01:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think they had party registration then, that's more of a 20th-century concept. He did spend most of his life in that party, though. If you want to be precise, though, you could change the "1861" to "1869" and the sentence works. --Coemgenus (talk) 01:51, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good point, I should have used a different word. Changing the year seems like a good idea. I’ll do that. Opportunity Rover (talk) 03:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think they had party registration then, that's more of a 20th-century concept. He did spend most of his life in that party, though. If you want to be precise, though, you could change the "1861" to "1869" and the sentence works. --Coemgenus (talk) 01:51, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Or was he two of three Democrat presidents? I'll see myself out. Bremps... 23:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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