Talk:Glisenti Model 1910

weaker cartridges than pistols of comparable caliber

The 9mm Glisenti cartridge was a 9mm charged like a 7.65 mm Luger. It fires a 124 grains bullet at 1050 fps with an energy of 412 joules. Less than a 9mm Luger, but much more than a 380 ACP, a 38 Special (270J), or a 9mm Makarov (313J), that, other that the 9mm Luger, are the most diffused 9mm pistol cartridges in the world. So It seems that the Glisenti fires a weaker cartridge than a 9x19mm Luger pistol, but it's power is, however, in the high part of the 9mm chambered pistols.

Boothroyd in "The Handgun" lists Italian loadings for 9mm Glisenti at 970 fps and for 9mm Luger at 1,150 fps. Smith in "Small Arms of the World" lists the 9mm Glisenti round from a M1910 Glisenti pistol with 3.9" barrel at 1050 fps. As a sidearm for defense, the 1910 Glisenti ballistics compare well against the Walther PPK, S&W Model 36, Makarov Pistol 9mm/.38. It appears that its "weak" reputation arose because it could chamber and fire WWII Italian issue ammo like 9mm Luger and 9mm M38 submachinegun that would damage the gun. -- Naaman Brown (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Also, for a direct comparison with its most likely competitors, the 9mm Glisenti, that Italy adopted in 1910, was more powerful than the 8mm Roth-Steyr, that Austria adopted in 1907, and about as powerful than the 9mm Steyr, that Austria adopted in 1912. Moreover, the 9mm Glisenti round was fired by a pistol that was 200g lighter than the Roth-Steyr M1907, and 250g lighter than the Steyr M1912.

Illustration current as of 27 Apr 2016

The current illustration for the Glisenti Model 1910 pistol shows the barrel and extension in full recoil position, short of the bolt unlocking and extending in eject/reload position. See Smith "Small Arms of the World" or Boothroyd "The Handgun": standard references show the Glisenti Model 1910 pistol in normal "at rest" barrel extension forward position. --Naaman Brown (talk) 14:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)