Talk:Gaetano Donizetti

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A mezzanotte !

Can somebody tell me if the arietta " a mezza note" also known as "quando notte sara oscura" is part of an opera or it is just an arietta that donizzeti wrote?Please!!! i have to sing it and to know everything about in ! rocsyno1@yahoo.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.180.209.188 (talk) 13:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Typos

There seem to be some typos in the Works: Quartet section (some are mentioned twice), or is it my idea? --Chrysalifourfour (talk) 15:58, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of operas

Is there some good reason why there is no List of operas by Donizetti in Category:Lists of operas by composer? This article would look better and tidier if the operas are removed to their own spinoff page, with better information (e.g. librettist, genre, etc.) in the same format as the rest of the lists in the Category. --GuillaumeTell 15:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is an old story from the 1950s. A logging camp in Maine has a rule that any lumberjack who complains about the food becomes the cook.

A new lumberjack arrives, complains about the food, and is immediately made cook. Since he hates cooking, he searches the woods until he finds a large fresh steaming moose turd, which he brings back to the camp, places in a pie shell, and serves for dessert. The biggest lumberjack in the camp cuts himself a piece, takes a bite, roars "That's moose-turd pie!", then quickly adds, "but damn it's good!"

Zyxwv99 (talk) 17:45, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Us lumberjacks are now cooking up something more delicious. --GuillaumeTell 21:06, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aristea - For the List of operas or the list of compositions?

Next month, Naxos records will be releasing a recording of a Donizetti work, which from the description may have a classification problem. Entitled Aristea, the work is one of those occasional pieces written to please the local monarch on their birthday. To all intents and purposes the work is a one act opera, but is apparently called a Cantata.

It does not appear to be on either list, I'd rather have some kind of consensus before adding it.

The liner notes can be read here.

Graham1973 (talk) 02:13, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am in the middle of a major updating of the Donizetti article as I write, but am sidetracked right now into expanding the Don Pasquale article. However, Donizetti did write quite a few non-operatic compositions of this sort and my major source - Weinstock 1963 (it's on the article ref list) - refers to Aristea under the category of "Cantatas". There were a lot of them, many written for royal occasions, including also hymns, "religious music", etc.

While I've not yet read anything on this piece, it does not appear to be eligible to be fitted into this article's list of operas. It probably requires a whole new section of its own! On a quick count, there are 20 cantatas listed by Weinstock. Viva-Verdi (talk) 02:31, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Major expansion of this article today

Having just uploaded this, I shall leave it to others to determine the Class level. Viva-Verdi (talk) 19:26, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't disagree with the WP:WikiProject Opera's A-rating for this article, but it's now oddly the project's only such rated article, and the Start-rating for the WP:WikiProject Composers and the C-rating for the biography project seem jarring. Following Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Assessment, should they all be "Good Article"? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've never been quite sure as to whether WP:Opera editors can make judgments about other Projects' categories, but I suppose that there is no reason not to. I guess that if WPO regards as a GA, then it makes sense to be consistent. As the major editor expanding the article, I'm not unhappy to see as a GA. Viva-Verdi (talk) 16:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have the same hesitation about other projects. As for GA: isn't there some process necessary to apply that rating? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:41, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shall have to check on the guidelines. As far "A", I guess I assumed that it came right before "B" and didn't realise that "Good article" comes in between them.... Viva-Verdi (talk) 17:19, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oops – I was under the same misapprehension; I thought "GA" was higher than "A" and that's why it needed a review. Turns out that Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Assessment says: "Assessing an article as A-Class requires a formal written review by more than one impartial reviewer." I suppose that without any independent assessment, the rating here has to be taken down to "B" (and apply that to the other projects, too). -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:33, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"... the same post which had been held by Mozart."

What utter nonsense. Mozart never was Court capellmeister. He was a minor "Kammer-Kompositeur".--88.117.69.40 (talk) 18:17, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"a serious bout of apoplexy"

In the section "The final journey to Bergamo" the phrase "until a serious bout of apoplexy occurred" appears. Shouldn't this be updated to intelligible modern English as "until he had a [series of] stroke[s]"? Hopefully the source would make clear whether it was one or more ("bout" inconclusively suggests several). 98.14.15.215 (talk) 21:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"in August 1845 when he was diagnosed with cerebro-spinal syphilis"

Donizetti was never diagnosed with syphilis. The method to diagnose syphilis was invented but in 1906. During Donizetti's lifetime no physician ever reached this dagnosis. The hypothesis that the composer had suffered from syphilis was only put forward by Cappelli in 1887 (G. Cappelli: La calotta cranica di Donizetti. In: Archivo italiano per le malattie nervöse 14, 1887, p. 135-153). There's no proof that Donizetti ever suffered from syphilis, there were no symptoms, nothing. This theory is entirely based on posthumous presumptions. Donizetti died of a series of strokes.--Suessmayr (talk) 09:40, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Two things: 1) The correct term is “neurosyphilis”. and 2) Agree this should be either deleted or clearly identified as only a speculative retrospective diagnosis. Markhh (talk) 15:26, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception / reputation today

This article is mostly biography. It could do with a section about Donizetti's reputation today, and which of his operas are still performed. cagliost (talk) 14:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]