Talk:Future perfect
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Use of the future perfect
[edit]I have moved the following here pending justification with a citation of usage statistics:
- The future perfect tense is not often used,
--RJCraig 04:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Cleanup
[edit]This page is pretty messy, and not standardized. I can change formatting and such, but the state of the article at the moment makes me question whether the content is accurate. I don't know, so could someone better qualified have a look through? :) Phyte 14:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Portuguese
[edit]In Portuguese, the future perfect is formed similarly to Spanish as "subject + future of ter + past participle ".
Example:
- eu terei falado ("I will have spoken")
The future of ter is formed by the future stem ter + the endings -ei, -ás, -á, -emos, -eis, -ão (the 2nd person plural form "tereis" is, however, archaic in both European and Brazilian Portuguese). The past participle of a verb is formed in turn by adding the endings -ado and -ido to the stems of ar and er/ir verbs, respectively. However, there are a few irregular participles, the most common of which are listed below:
- abrir: aberto
- cobrir: coberto
- dizer: dito
- escrever: escrito
- fazer: feito
- ganhar: ganho
- gastar: gasto
- pagar: pago
- pôr: posto
- ver: visto
- vir: vindo
Several verbs that are derived from the irregular verbs above form their past participle in a similar fashion, for example, the past participle of predizer ("to predict') is predito; for supor ("to suppose"), it would be suposto, and satisfazer ("to satisfy"), which is derived from fazer ("to do"), has the past participle satisfeito.
To make the sentence negative, one simply adds não before the conjugated form of ter: eu não terei falado. When using the future perfect with oblique pronouns, European Portuguese and formal written Brazilian Portuguese use mesoclisis of the pronoun in the affirmative form and place the pronoun before the auxiliary verb in the negative form.
Examples:
- Eu tê-lo-ei visto ("I will have seen him")
- Eu não o terei visto ("I will not have seen him")
- Ele ter-me-á visto ( "He will have seen me")
- Ele não me terá visto ("He will not have seen me")
Colloquial/informal Brazilian Portuguese on the hand usually places stressed pronouns such as me, te, se, nos e lhe/lhes between the conjugated form of ter and the past participle, for example: ele terá me visto ("he will have seen me"); ele não terá me visto ("he will not have seen me"). Unstressed pronouns like o and a are normally placed before the conjugated form of ter, for example: eu o terei visto ("I will have seen him"); eu não o terei visto ("I will not have seen him"). 187.57.170.239 (talk) 02:00, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Time marker for present perfect
[edit]English allows the use of time markers in the present perfect under some situations. For instance "You have done it this time/now", "We have broken the curse today". Tumpalion (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Good point, I've tried to reword the relevant paragraph accordingly. Victor Yus (talk) 09:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The Portuguese section can be mostly removed
[edit]Only the first paragraph and the example in the Portuguese section are directly related to the topic at hand. In particular, having a list of irregular past participles is entirely unnecessary. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Order of sections
[edit]Given that this is the English Wikipedia, it makes sense to have English first. Shouldn't the others be in alphabetical order? Matchups 14:24, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
"I will have done it on the previous Tuesday" (?)
[edit]Complete nonsense. Google: "will have done it on the previous" => 5
85.193.242.83 (talk) 03:48, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- It means "I must have done it" - that is, I infer it's very probably that I did ; compare Will have done it yesterday Backinstadiums (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2022 (UTC)