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1964 deaths

This section needs a source. The newspaper reports are on the wall inside the Snake Inn. Perhaps someone could look in there and get the reference. It is going to be a while for me to do so from Australia. --Bduke 22:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be going there in April for the event, so if no-one can get there sooner, I can get it then. --Bodrick Light 22:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There IS a description on the web (one of the rescue teams' sites perhaps) giving more detail on where the guys were found. Or I can ask Dave Kirk, a scouting mate of mine, who did the 1965 event I think.Linuxlad 23:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The main thing is to source the bit about the deaths. The were found very close to the Inn just above the tree line is my recollection. I knew the guys who died through university Scouting. They were from the Birmingham University Rover Crew. I had been ARSL of the Oxford University Crew until 1963 and did the walk earlier. I forget the exact year but will look it up later. The other interesting point is that these deaths really lead to changes in the wider understanding of hyperthermia. It prompted new research and publicised earlier studies. It was a watershed in how hikers dealt with cold wet conditions. That needs to be sourced and then added to the article, but I would not want to do it from memory. Another point is that the 4 Inns were different then. The walk went from the Holmfirth TV mast down to the Flouch Inn and then back up the road - a very tedious and pointless bit - before crossing Bleaklow. --Bduke 23:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to http://www.buxtonmrt.org.uk/team_peak.htm , the scouts seem to be from different groups. I can't really understand the article though, it seems a bit ambiguous. I'll keep looking for better sources. --Bodrick Light 08:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I remember Dave telling me (we'd both been in 4th Derby Derwent) many scouts travelled alone and clad lightly in running gear.The necessity for groups of 3/4 & a sackful of kit followed after the tragedy.Linuxlad 08:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At that times there were supposed to be groups of 3, but some did split up. Many were not properly dressed. The 3 who died were from the Birmingham University Rover Crew but they would of course have also belonged to other groups. I thought I recalled that they were found together but I could be wrong. --Bduke 10:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was on that walk in 1964. I was at Birmingham University at the time but walked with the 14th Battersea Rovers. However, I drove up from Birmingham with the team from the B'ham Univ group and ended up driving their car alone back to B'ham. They started earlier that we did and I remember passing them on the way, perhaps going up onto Bleaklow but I can't be sure. We retired, along with many others, at the Snake because of the atrocious weather. The B'ham team was NOT among those who were lightly equipped although none of us at that time carried all the extra clothing and emergency gear that became obligatory after that 1964 tragedy. And they HAD stayed together. My recollection is that they got off route, drifting too far east, when coming down from Bleaklow, probably became exhausted and got caught in the snow that set in during the afternoon. I've a vague memory that, once they got into trouble, one may have gone on for help while the others remained huddled. I could try to dig deeper into my memory, and into those of other members of the team I was with, if anyone is still interested in trying to nail down more details... — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonGex (talk • contribs) 21:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]