Talk:Foster and Partners

This article was nominated for deletion on 13 March 2023. The result of the discussion was keep.

Architecture High‑importance

	Architecture portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Architecture, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Architecture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ArchitectureWikipedia:WikiProject ArchitectureTemplate:WikiProject ArchitectureArchitecture articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

It should be noted that some of the glass front buildings of Foster and Partners sometimes "loose" their windows ("honey, we just lost a window again"), examples are 30 St Mary Axe and Haus der Wirtschaftsförderung in Duisburg, Germany - that's something you don't want to happen when you're just walking around those buildings. --Abdull 21:58, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well the article for 30 St Mary Axe already mentions its incident. Actually it is quite normal for new buildings, especially innovative ones, to have initial teathing problems. However it is usually more like a section of the roof that leaks — a window falling out has to be a bit of a concern.

It can be worse, in 1990 a window in the cockpit of a BAC 1-11 fell out at an altitude of 17,000 feet. The captain was partially sucked out of the plane and the First Officer had to make an emergency landing with one of the stewards holding on to the captain's legs (see for example this version of the story.) -- Solipsist 23:11, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image placement

What's with the freaky image placement in this article? Astronaut (talk) 13:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Foster and Partners. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:59, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Foster and Partners. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130626190059/http://www.architecture.com/NewsAndPress/News/RIBANews/News/2013/Winnersofthe2013RIBAInternationalAwardsawardsforarchitecturalexcellenceannounced.aspx to http://www.architecture.com/NewsAndPress/News/RIBANews/News/2013/Winnersofthe2013RIBAInternationalAwardsawardsforarchitecturalexcellenceannounced.aspx

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 01:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 December 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Foster and Partners → Foster + Partners – Current name (see their website). WikiArticleEditor (talk) 17:56, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:MOS-TM. The stylized version is read as "Foster and Partners" (not "Foster Plus Partners" or any other variant). The site you link is "www.fosterandpartners.com". Reliable sources are mixed but many use "and": The Guardian, The Telegraph, Norman Foster writing for CNN. Dekimasuよ! 18:46, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Unpronounced stylizations should not be in article titles. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:49, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:MOS-TM. and early close please. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:42, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

December 2023 proposal of edits

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hello, Wikipedians. I have a conflict of interest as an employee of Foster + Partners. This proposal verifies existing information on the page with reliable sources, and removes that which could not be verified. It should address all issues in the warning box, so it can be removed. Thank you for your valuable time.

1. Please replace the first sentence of the lead paragraph:

Foster and Partners (stylized as Foster + Partners) is a British international architecture firm based in London, England, founded in 1967 by Sir Norman Foster.

Change to:

Foster and Partners (displayed as Foster + Partners) is a British international architecture and integrated design firm based in London, England, founded in 1967^[1] by Lord Norman Foster.^[2]

Reason:

The version I’m suggesting is based on high quality, secondary sources and removes the word “stylized,” which reads as promotional. I’ve added a citation because while the information does appear in the body of the article, it cites a single primary source. I have also updated Foster’s title as he is a member of Britain’s House of Lords.

Done STEMinfo (talk) 00:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2. Please replace the second sentence in the lead paragraph:

Foster and Partners has designed many iconic buildings and structures around the world, including the Gherkin in London, the 1990s renovation of the Reichstag in Berlin, the Hearst Tower in New York City, the Hong Kong International Airport, and the Millau Viaduct in France.

Replace with:

Foster and Partners has designed buildings and structures including the Gherkin in London, the Hearst Tower in New York City,^[3] the 1990s renovation of the Reichstag in Berlin,^[4] the Millau Viaduct in France,^[2] and the Hong Kong International Airport.^[5]

Reason:

The version I’m suggesting removes promotional language like “iconic” and adds citations using prominent secondary sources. It also pares down the list of projects to avoid excessive detail.

Done STEMinfo (talk) 00:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3. Please replace the first sentence of the second paragraph in the lead section:

In addition to architectural design, Foster and Partners is also involved in urban planning, interior design, industrial design, and graphics.

Replace with:

In addition to architectural design, the firm’s practice encompasses engineering^[1] and design.^[6]

Reason:

The version I’m suggesting pares down the list of the firm’s disciplines to areas that are supported by reliable secondary press sources, as well as adds necessary citations.

Done STEMinfo (talk) 00:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

4. Please replace the second sentence in the second paragraph of the lead section:

The firm employs over 1,400 staff, including architects, engineers, designers, and project managers, and has completed projects in more than 75 countries around the world.

Replace with:

As of 2021, the firm had approximately 1,500 employees, located in offices in multiple cities, including New York, Hong Kong, and Madrid.^[1]

Reason:

The existing sentence was out of date. The sentence I’ve suggested uses a reliable secondary source to cite the most recently available employment statistics as well as up-to-date examples of international offices. I couldn’t find a source explicitly stating the number of projects/countries that information was cut to avoid original research. The original sentence contains no citations, so I have added one.

Done STEMinfo (talk) 00:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

5. Please replace the third sentence of the second paragraph in the lead section:

The firm has won numerous awards for its work, including more than 620 awards and citations for excellence in design.

Replace with:

The firm has won the Pritzker Architecture Prize^[7] and the Stirling Prize.^[8]

Reason:

The existing version does not specify any specific awards that the firm has won. The new version here resolves that and provides good sourcing to justify the mentions of those specific awards.

Done STEMinfo (talk) 22:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

6. Please replace the first sentence of the first paragraph in the history section:

Established by Norman Foster as Foster Associates in 1967 shortly after leaving Team 4, the firm was renamed Sir Norman Foster and Partners Ltd in 1992 and shortened to Foster + Partners Ltd in 1999 to reflect the influence of the other lead architects.^[9]

Change to:

The firm was established by Norman Foster in 1967^[7] shortly after leaving his first studio, Team 4.^[10] The firm was originally called Foster Associates before the name was changed to Foster & Partners in 1999.^[11]

Reason:

The existing version cites a primary source that does not support all of the claims made in the sentence like “in 1992 and shortened to Foster + Partners Ltd in 1999 to reflect the influence of the other lead architects.” The version I’ve suggested salvages verifiable information using prominent sources, and deletes unverifiable original research.

Done except I removed shortly, which is unsupported, and changed "&" to "+" to match the source. STEMinfo (talk) 22:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

7. Please remove the following tags from the warning box on the top of the article:

This article needs additional citations for verification. (August 2023) This article possibly contains original research. (August 2023) This article includes a list of general references, but it lacks sufficient corresponding inline citations. (August 2023)

Reason:

The changes proposed above address the issues those tags are calling attention to by adding additional citations (including inline citations), and removing original research. These labels within the box are no longer required once the other changes I’ve suggested have been made.

Done STEMinfo (talk) 22:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assistance. StaffordJasper (talk) 17:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c Hickman, Matt (11 October 2021). "Foster + Partners sold to a Canadian private investment firm". The Architect's Newspaper. Retrieved 11 September 2023.
^ ^a ^b Nayeri, Farah (10 May 2023). "Norman Foster Is Still Looking Upward". New York Times. Retrieved 7 September 2023.
^ Kuang, Cliff (13 February 2009). "Norman Foster's No Good, Rotten, Very Bad Week". Fast Company. Retrieved 7 September 2023.
^ Cohen de Lara, Max; Mulder van der Vegt, David. "These 5 architectural designs influence every legislature in the world — and tell you how each governs". Washington Post. No. 4 March2017. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
^ Wong, Gillian; Specia, Megan (13 August 2019). "Hong Kong Airport, a City's Symbol of Pride, Is Now Its Hub of Unrest". New York Times. Retrieved 5 September 2023.
^ Bertoli, Rosa (30 August 2022). "Leading light: Foster + Partners' Industrial Design shines bright". Wallpaper. Retrieved 7 September 2023.
^ ^a ^b Fazzare, Elizabeth (12 May 2023). "Norman Foster Is More Invested in the Future Than Ever". Architectural Digest. Retrieved 7 September 2023.
^ Prisco, Jacopo (10 October 2018). "Bloomberg's European HQ named UK's best new building". CNN. Retrieved 11 September 2023.
^ "Foster + Partners Limited". Companies House. Retrieved 9 September 2017.
^ Ravenscroft, Tom (19 January 2023). ""There are a lot of dangerous myths" about sustainability says Norman Foster". dezeen. Retrieved 11 September 2023.
^ Glancey, Jonathan (2 January 1999). "The Guardian Profile: Sir Norman Foster, The Master Builder". The Guardian.

Correcting spelling error in infobox

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hello. The company’s name in the infobox was recently changed to something that is both misspelled and inaccurate. I’m an employee of the company and will not edit this page myself, but would greatly appreciate it if an editor could please make the correction. Thanks.

Please replace the “name” line in the infobox:

| name = Parters - fosters Group Limited

Change to:

| name = Foster and Partners

Reason:

As written, the name is both inaccurate and misspelled, and incongruent with the spelling of the company’s name throughout the rest of the article.

Thank you for your help. StaffordJasper (talk) 09:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Well spotted, definitely an improvement. Axad12 (talk) 12:15, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[ArchNews21-1] Hickman, Matt (11 October 2021). "Foster + Partners sold to a Canadian private investment firm". The Architect's Newspaper. Retrieved 11 September 2023.

[NYT23-2] Nayeri, Farah (10 May 2023). "Norman Foster Is Still Looking Upward". New York Times. Retrieved 7 September 2023.

[FastCompany09-3] Kuang, Cliff (13 February 2009). "Norman Foster's No Good, Rotten, Very Bad Week". Fast Company. Retrieved 7 September 2023.

[WaPo17-4] Cohen de Lara, Max; Mulder van der Vegt, David. "These 5 architectural designs influence every legislature in the world — and tell you how each governs". Washington Post. No. 4 March2017. Retrieved 29 November 2023.

[NYT19-5] Wong, Gillian; Specia, Megan (13 August 2019). "Hong Kong Airport, a City's Symbol of Pride, Is Now Its Hub of Unrest". New York Times. Retrieved 5 September 2023.

[Wallpaper22-6] Bertoli, Rosa (30 August 2022). "Leading light: Foster + Partners' Industrial Design shines bright". Wallpaper. Retrieved 7 September 2023.

[ArchDigest23-7] Fazzare, Elizabeth (12 May 2023). "Norman Foster Is More Invested in the Future Than Ever". Architectural Digest. Retrieved 7 September 2023.

[CNN18-8] Prisco, Jacopo (10 October 2018). "Bloomberg's European HQ named UK's best new building". CNN. Retrieved 11 September 2023.

[9] "Foster + Partners Limited". Companies House. Retrieved 9 September 2017.

[dezeen23-10] Ravenscroft, Tom (19 January 2023). ""There are a lot of dangerous myths" about sustainability says Norman Foster". dezeen. Retrieved 11 September 2023.

[Guardian99-11] Glancey, Jonathan (2 January 1999). "The Guardian Profile: Sir Norman Foster, The Master Builder". The Guardian.

[1]

[2]

[3]

[4]

[5]

[6]

[7]

[8]

[9]

[10]

[11]