Talk:Forbidden fruit

Pentecostal Serpent Seed

Surprised the theory that the "forbidden fruit" was Eve having intercourse with "satan" (thus producing the "serpent-seed" bloodline of Cain) before he was cursed to crawl upon his belly that Pentecostal (at least, possibly others) Protestants put forward isn't mentioned. This is a wide spread belief by protestants in some parts of Appalachia and the near parts of the south, in the USA. 10:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.71.98 (talk)

But that's how it actually went so the Serpent Seed is a legit point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by someone in Indiana — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:9600:52C0:3C85:8701:DE5C:F9B5 (talk) 13:53, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Pedantry

Without trying to spark off an angry POV debate - this article says "according to the narrative..." rather than just explaining what happens. I appreciate trying to avoid writing in a "the bible is correct" POV, but that's not the point - articles about fictional characters on Wikipedia, after the words "is a fictional character in..." in the introduction, generally speak about events in the past tense without any further qualifications. Seems a bit inconsistent. Won't change it myself for fear of upsetting someone. Matt 13:27, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

ok.--רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 19:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

in any caise, ine bible is not 100% fictional. Grace UMC Member (talk) 00:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Vegetarians in the Bible

I am wondering whether the Second Commandment "Thou Shalt Not Kill" should be applied to animals without further explanation present on this page. Declaring that the Second Commandment requires vegetarianism seems a little extreme, especially considering that earlier in Genesis, God created the animals of the Earth for the benefit of man.

Bartonious 22:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of that question, the text says that the fruit came from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Animal flesh doesn't grow on trees, so this theory seems dubious, and the editor doesn't cite any sources that support this claim. Miraculouschaos 14:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I really wouldn't put it past the bible to tell a story about a tree that grows animals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.5.128.19 (talk) 14:29, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

No Thou Shall not kill is referring to murder. It does say in the Bible that certain animals- can be eaten —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carbuncle72 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

The Bible does NOT say "thou shalt not kill". It says "thou shalt not murder". just as the two words have different meanings in english there are different words for those concepts in hebrew. the word for murder is used, not the generic kill. people who read the bible in english need to understand that it is a translation (often a poor one). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.142.254 (talk) 23:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

See also

Streisand Effect - The link between that article and Forbidden Fruit is so far-fetched we have to invent a whole new word for far-fetched. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashrawi (talk • contribs) 20:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I've deleted the 'Streisand Effect' and 'Jailbait' see-alsos as irrelevant. Kay Dekker (talk) 21:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Female Orgasm

Has anyone out there suggested that the female orgasm might be the forbidden fruit? People in some societies use extreme means to prevent female orgasm (e.g.,clitoridectomy or female circumcision). These practices are apparently very old, suggesting an ancient antipathy to the idea of a woman enjoying sexuality. Virgil H. Soule (talk) 01:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Tomato?

Because the tomato, a fruit, is in some Slavic languages called "rajčica" or "paradajz", (both words are related to paradise - "raj" means "paradise"), there are also many of the opinion that it is the forbidden fruit of Genesis. Before the seventeenth century, tomatoes were regarded as poisonous in many European countries, lending credence to the rumors of its forbidden past.

Tomato originates from America, so it can be in no way a candidate for the forbidden fruit. Its name in some Slavonic languages, which relates to the Paradise, probably results from a misunderstanding and mistranslation of French pomme d'or (= golden apple), in itself an allusion to the myth of the garden of Hesperides on the "far" (to an ancient Greek) west. So this paragraph is probably to be deleted, as it is blatant nonsense, which only uneducated may consider seriously. -212.87.13.74 (talk) 09:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

The early confusion of tomatoes as poisonous was due to the tomato plant being part of the nightshade family along with belladonna. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.56.228.101 (talk) 00:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Manchineel

The American manchineel tree is the tree of knowledge and one of 4 biological proofs of American contact. The Machineel is poisonous to eat and to the touch because of a poisonous latex based sap. If tasted it will cause a reaction in the lymph nodes area around your Adam's apple. The tree and fruit also are very similar to that of an apple tree. Before you say can't be because of its American habitat think again. The American Iguana is able to climb the manchineel tree without repercussion and even eats the fruit as part of its natural diet. Proving the story of Adam and Eve came from America where the natural environment of the tree and serpent still exist today. Additionally Noah's ark was a vessel that contained such an American zoo. The local flooding of America every El Niño cycle is the mode for launching the arc and accounts for the rain over the east pacific. Lastly just like Christopher Columbus reported finding the indies south of China when he discovered America. Noah assumed the world had flooded because he had just spent a year on the open ocean. He at least recorded the form of the land changed and that the cycle of flooding had stopped. Vclaar (talk) 13:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Please read WP:NOTFORUM. Theroadislong (talk) 14:36, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Valid theory to consider its merits before being dismissive. No other possiblility for the identity of the fruit listed fits the poisonous discription. Vclaar (talk) 16:42, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

I've given you a templated explanation on your talk page and a welcome message. Editors shouldn't be using article talk pages to discuss the subject, only the article, and material in the article needs to meet WP:VERIFY. Doug Weller talk 16:46, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Metaphorically

Eating the fruit of knowledge is the learning of planar-coded English by a feudal language speaker. It creates a terrific change of perspective in the individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D403:2F28:445:7DAB:DBA2:606D (talk) 22:11, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Islamic Tradition

Surah Al-A'raf 7:22 does not support "and then it was Adam who initiated eating from the forbidden tree.". http://quran.al-islam.com/Loader.aspx?pageid=738&BookID=15&Page=151 --Chris Schmidt (talk) 15:55, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Bananas?

Portuguese registrar and heretic Pedro Rates Hanequin (1680-1744) identified the banana as the forbidden fruit, and Brazil was the Garden of Eden itself.[1][2][3][4] --186.213.38.21 (talk) 06:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I've added a section on the Banana using semitic sources. Feel free to tack this on as well Jakesyl (talk) 10:54, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

By the way, since this is an IP user, I doubt he'll see this. If anyone wants to go for it the source is in spanish (I don't speak it or I'd add it myself). Appreciate it! Jakesyl (talk) 10:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Apple sin !!!

Apple sin or Appelsin (old) or Orange was possibly first known ancient attempt of Genetic Modification from citrus. That was attempt to be Creator, power of God, so named as Sin. Antanas L — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.228.106.150 (talk) 09:40, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

The serpants deception

> Eve claims the serpent deceived her even though she did not die [...]

This claim is contradicted by Genesis 3:19 ("[...] for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return") as well as Genesis 3:22-24 -- or, at least, it is an opinion about the text that could be disputed rather than a fact and therefore should not be included. Hejsandra (talk) 13:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Short description

Shorten per WP:SDSHORT. Editor2020 (talk) 00:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Mushrooms

The final section’s comments on mushrooms seem a bit odd— ‘Good gave us free will’ etc., but equally I’m hungover. An eye on that please 194.82.100.163 (talk) 22:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

The section on the same in Parallel Concepts (under Greek Mythology??) also definitely needs at least citation if not removal - it’s an opinion, grammatically incorrect and, more to the point Psilocybin mushrooms have just been better addressed right above it.

Haven't used my login in ages so I’ll leave this to Real Editors but I did think it needed flagging 2601:249:9301:6B10:6477:2F73:B311:4FF1 (talk) 16:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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Was the misconception about it being an apple actually a pun/mistranslation?

I'm having some trouble verifying this with a good source. I'm also finding accounts that it was a shift in the usage of the word apple (and especially "pomme" in French), where it turned into just a general word for fruit. 98.97.81.79 (talk) 02:47, 27 September 2024 (UTC)