Talk:Floyd Mayweather Jr./Archive 1

Archive 1

The Real No.1 Pound-For-Pound Boxer

According to thesweetscience.com in March 4, 2008 Article, Mayweather is the No.1 pound-for-pound boxer. See: http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/5718/pound-pound-list/

However, in May 11, 2010 Article, thesweetscience.com's No.1 Pound-For-Pound Boxer is Pacquiao and Mayweather both at a tie!!!!!. See: http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/8013/avila-pound-pound-list/

Please check the site properly before stating your views Jailbreaker212 (talk) 01:39, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Therefore, thesweetscience.com's current No.1 Pound-For-Pound Boxer is Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.

AND

Many icecream cones guys, critics and writers choose The Ring Magazine Rankings / Ratings over other sources. Check back with DoghouseBoxing weekly for an updated list. - http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Ring/Ring071910.htm

How come a coward mayweather be the no. 1 pound for pound? crazy!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.77.202.4 (talk) 21:40, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

As of May 1 2011, he is no longer ranked #1 -- or ranked at all -- by BoxRec. Therefore the accolades from BoxRec should be removed from the first paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blant Bayneler (talk • contribs) 18:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Middle Name

His middle name is Joy

and alot of the kids from his old neighbourhood used to call him boy floyd joy or boy joy floyd

In a semi-related note, he is known as "Pretty Boy," not "The Bitch Boy" as someone decided to write.

High School

I heard he was a high scool drop out. Is this true?

No.

Very interesting article here that suggests just the opposite and quotes him talking about dropping out in the 12th grade.[1] USA Today seems like a reliable source. Did he later complete or something? Why do you say no?

Here is a May 2006 Official Minutes of the Grand Rapids Public School Board in which they clearly say he attended ... Ottawa Hills High School.[2]

The bio on his website doesn't claim any degree earned by him.(sorry you have to navigate via flash under profile then bio

Well actually he went to alternative school and he graduated i presumeSistersboy 12:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Good Guy?

[http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/12-0&fp=4568d292f5d121ce&ei=dgdoRZXnFqWSae-Mje0M&url=http%3A//www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf%3F/base/news-33/1164202503104910.xml%26coll%3D6&cid=0 He provides meals for the poor] [3] See also these minutes from the Grand Rapids Public School Board celebrating Pretty Boy Floyd's community involvement.[4]

thats right you feed the poor sexy man lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vampierslilvamp (talk • contribs) 13:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC) ALSO adam was a champion and also zeeshan they where both freinds of maywetaher

Bad Guy?

He has several convictions for situations involving alleged violence.[5]

Should this not be mentioned along with the domestic violence acquittal, given that he was required to clear this charge in order to keep the fight? And he has two prior convictions for Domestic Violence prior to the reported acquittal according to this news report.[6]

I have declined to insert these items directly into the article as I am unsure of treatment of such items.

Timeline

Outdated: "De La Hoya has been quoted as saying his goal is 2 million buys, which, given the amount of time still remaining to promote the fight, is a definite possibility."

We cant decide based on opinion we need sources.The commentators say he's the best pound-for-pund boxer in the world and so does Oscar DeLahoyaSistersboy 12:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Removed clear NPOV violation

I removed the following sentence from the section on the De La Hoya fight:

However, due to the dull nature of the fight, (Floyd was incredibly defensive and lacked meaningful aggression)....

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There was even an attempt to provide a reference so one is forced to draw the conclusion that this is the editor's opinion and clearly violates both the letter and spirit of the NPOV policy.

At the very least, if the editor is a boxer or expert on boxing (Burt Sugar?), then this would count as original research, another no-no.

Also referring to the subject of the article by his first name is un-encyclopedic since Mayweather doesn't go by one name as some celebrities do (e.g. Raven).

The article also has numerous un-sourced quotes that clearly need to be fixed. I did not have time to search/list them all; only the ones in the aforementioned section.

I'm also adding the appropriate tag to the section.

PainMan 07:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hatton KO?

I says Mayweather won by KO but it was actually TKO, change it or unlock the page already —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.19.40 (talk) 10:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

it has been changed Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

good for you. nice description of the fight too. 1 line. nicely done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.46.10 (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

He did win by KO. ref stopped the fight when Hatton was knocked down and wasnt gonna get up. KO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.2.50.9 (talk) 19:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

How could he know? The ref stopped the fight. TKO. Learn, jackass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.151.203 (talk) 20:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

the fight was stopped due to 3 knockdows in a round, there was no count, thus a TKO a KO only occurs when you fail to answer a 10 count. Skitzo (talk) 22:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

No it wasnt stopped on a 3 knock down - and I dont think that that rule was even in effect last night! It was a TKO because the RSF as he deemed the fighter was unable to continue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vintagekits (talk • contribs) 22:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

ah sorry, my mistake, either way it was still a TKO not a KO. Skitzo (talk) 22:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You are making a habit of being wrong! ;) --Vintagekits (talk) 23:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

can you stop reformatting how i post, it's very annoying. Skitzo (talk) 23:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll tell you what is annoying and that is people not indenting their comments - when you reply to comment you are supposed to make an indent. Please format correctly and no one will have you reformat your posts.--Vintagekits (talk) 12:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

"I knew it was going to be tough," Mayweather said. "That's why I didn't do anything halfway. He was definitely the toughest competitor I've ever faced."

Associated Press http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jcyNIpIR8zr3Tt8fvFrvy9DDenbAD8TE03H00 I think that, when you have achieved what Hatton has, and given that this is all we know of Floyd's reaction to the fight at this point, it is perfectly reasonable to put this at the end of the article just before it mentions his 2 year retirement. Fair enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.81.209 (talk) 00:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

In sentence "however, replay video showed that Hatton's alleged punch didn't even land." The words "alleged" and "even" imply that the encyclopedia has an opinion about this being an unjust call. Changing it to "however, replay video showed that Hatton's punch didn't actually land" would be a better choice of words to ensure that the encyclopedia remains neutral and simply states fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.225.17.17 (talk) 16:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

penis anatomy

I was just looked up this page to see who won the match and someone hacked this article so some anatomy of a penis covers the screen! Will someone please find out who the hell did this, and ban him from editing PERMANENTLY! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.102.66 (talk) 16:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Floyd Joy Sinclair?

Someone in the article claimed that Floyd Mayweather was born Floyd Joy Sinclair? It this true? If it is, then a source online or anything should be applied so that it'll be confirmed. 202.69.177.61 (talk) 02:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

A source may have been added but it appears there that the name Sinclair was merely the surname of his mother before marriage. I can't say that this is acceptable. 122.3.106.142 (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the timeline below the picture of floyd it says right there that he was born floyd joy sinclair. Rvk41 (talk) 02:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

MMA

Why is the completely bias MMA controversy section back up?! Do the mods have something personally against mayweather? put in both sides!! Mayweather offered chuck liddela million dollars - He didn't get intimidated into apologizing - floyd could care less about dana white buying tickets with sean sherk to see his fight - that was simply thier way of trying to get publicity for ufc at the biggest ppv event of all time! take it down or fix its obviously bias nature this is ridiculous.

The MMA Controversy section of Floyd's page is completely biased in supporting a UFC depiction of the situation, furthermore its sources don't back up anything. the Cite for Floyds retraction is merely a cite to his boxing rec page. This illustration of the chain of events is structured to look like Floyd Mayweather was "intimidated" into retracting which is not at all what happened. Floyd rejected Dana Whites offer because it was a very low 2 million dollars. Floyd counter offered Dana White for Chuck Liddel to not even fight a champ but merely a 10-0 boxer. Much of it was a hype campaign by both parties, because as evidence Dana White has only offered one fight for a boxer to compete in MMA and has denied his own fighters the opportunities on two separate occasions for UFC champions to face boxers in their respective sport. Change its bias nature and post the other side as soon as possible.

Floyd offering the 1 million (http://www.mmapunch.com/2007/03/31/floyd-mayweather-talks-smack-about-the-ice-man/)

Floyd saying ("Why would I go into a sport paying hundreds of thousands when I'm in a sport paying $20 million?" Mayweather said. )http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=dw-mayweather041807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The highest offer Dana White ever made was 2 million - find a source to prove me wrong, and please fix the page.

I heard Floyd might do MMA.. anyone know anything? —Preceding

yeah he was talking about it but i doubt he'll do it.

Can someone please update the MMA section, the style is too informal and one-sided —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bertje82 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

its backed up by sources, find better ones, as i understand thats exactly what happend —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.75.141 (talk) 21:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

• I have summarised the information into a short paragraph; it need not be any longer than this as it was a minor part of Mayweather's career that led to absolutely nothing. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 13:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

why was this section taken out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.252.141.3 (talk) 13:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

WWE

How can Mayweather 'lose' this fight it's not possible. The result is already known. Big Show cannot injure Mayweather either as then that injury would have to occur in reality. There will probably be some kind of interference from Rey Mysterio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 06:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Personly I would like to see MR. May wheather vs. Shane Carwin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.173.201 (talk) 05:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

On the 2/18/08 edition of Raw, Floyd accepted a challenge to fight Paul Wight, aka the Big Show, presumably at WrestleMania XXIV. Minizilla (talk) 03:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

unsigned comment added by 67.169.225.199 (talk) 02:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

It is in the article, but we can't put in that it is at Wrestlemania, because there is no guarantee of this, and that would be a violation on WP:CRYSTAL. LessThanClippers (talk) 20:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually we can't put it in the article either because that is we dont put week by week events. or in this case day by day. WP is an encyclopedia not a news site. We will add it once we have a set location of when it will be added, or after it happens.--TrUCo⁹31¹ 00:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I would say it is already notable enough to say they had a stand off and agreed to a match, since its a special one time situation and not our usual type of match. We put that pac man jones had agreed to a match. It is already notable, its on non wrestling news sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LessThanClippers (talk • contribs) 00:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Just give it time, or if you want to add it that bad add a small sentence. --TrUCo⁹31¹ 00:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

All that was in there was that he had agreed to a match against the Big Show. Thats notable. LessThanClippers (talk) 00:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Well go ahead and write it, make sure you source it =)TrUCo⁹31¹ 00:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

We don't know when the match will happen, just that a match will eventually happen. TJ Spyke 02:26, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

• This bout will not be on his official boxing record, will it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.125.172 (talk) 04:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Good point but I think that he'd want it on his record fake or not it's no mean feat to defeat a 7 foot giant. The actual match type has not been specified but I presume it will be a boxing match. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 06:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

why is he doing this anyway? is he trying to tell us that boxing is fixed? 86.138.167.124 (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

im a huge wrestling fan, but someone wrote on his page that is record is 40-0. However we all know that this does not count on his profesional boxing record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyrule Historian (talk • contribs) 20:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

WM 24

the Match with the Big show Will be a MMA Fight it said it on raw the other day, So By Means Floyd Will Box During the Match and the Big show will wrestle.Big show lost Mayweather won the match.

De la hoya fight

why is the de la hoya fight red on his record and all the others green, he won the fight, it should be the same as the others, doesnt matter if it was a split decision, he still won so make it the same as the others —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.35.103.196 (talk) 12:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC) floyd is the best

WWE Question

Why is there no mention at all of his WWE appearances? He was in quite a big angle and it seems stupid to just leave it out like it never happened. The main picture on his article is a picture of him in a WWE ring, how do you explain that picture without having any references to his WWE appearances? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.154.242 (talk) 17:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

fight record

sum1 fix the fight record it has hatton on the same line as marquez

•  Done --aktsu ^(t / c) 11:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

comments on mma

In a July 2009 interview with CBS Sports, Mayweather once again criticized MMA by saying, "MMA is for beer drinkers. I'm a monkey and I like running away from people as I fight them."

Mayweather never referred to himself as a monkey who likes to run away from people when he fights them, this is obvious derogatory vandalism, in fact i dont even think a comments on mma section even belongs on here, its obviously biased.

•  Done --aktsu ^(t / c) 11:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

all there is in that section is quotes of what mayweather has said and others have responded (with the exception of the iron ring thing), its in the correct order and rather complete to my knowledge, however feel free to edit it if you find diffrent quotes mayweather made about mma —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.142.200 (talk) 03:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Mayweather dose not want to figth Sugar shane Mostley. Mostley call him out. Floyd Mayeather said no I would not fight fight you.

Marquez

The Marquez fight is not on the fight record??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.87.155 (talk) 16:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Good and Bad Editor

It seems obvious that vandalism is occurring, but not knowledgeable enough about subject to determine where to revert to. User:Cluebot caught some, but not all of it. Thatguyflint (talk) 08:00, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

LOCK THIS PAGE ALREADY!!!

  WHY ISN'T THIS PAGE LOCKED LIKE THOSE OF SIMILAR FAME AND STATURE???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.78.130 (talk) 09:23, 18 November 2009 (UTC) 

"Comments on MMA"

Please stop adding this section, it holds no relevance in the scheme of his life. Nothing came out of it. He said in part of an interview that he didn't like MMA, it doesn't warrant a section in his biography per WP:BLP. It defies policy to include every opinion someone has when it holds no relevance in his life. 128.54.33.196 (talk) 06:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

yes it does, because he made it so, do people not quote ali over his opinions on other fighters? what he said about his views? the fact of the matter is its relevent because mayweather mentions it, he makes his views known, so as long as there is no bias in there (only quotes used) then it should be in there, and the fact that he had a team in the iron ring is just as relevent as the WWE (97.124.84.88 (talk) 09:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)).

Just because he makes one of his ideologies known doesn't mean it's notable in his life. Nothing aspired because of it. He was asked about MMA and he said he didn't like it, big deal. Many celebrities say they don't like many things, you can't and shouldn't include them all. 128.54.169.184 (talk) 21:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request:

I'm here to provide a third opinion. I'm not an expert on the issues and I've never edited this article. The section cites no references. Without references, it should definitely be deleted. If or when wp:rs references are found, you would then need to debate if it's worthy of mention. Without the references, its hard for me to judge right now how relevant MMA, or FM's comments on them, are to his bio. Once you have references, you can read wp:undue for guidelines on what and what not to include in an article. In my opinion, if FM's banter on MMA was just isolated banter that was covered by a few news sources, it does not deserve mention. Perhaps it deserves a sentence or two in another section in the article, if the issue has had significant coverage by the national press. To include mention, you would then have to demonstrate that this MMA affair is/was a significant issue in FM's life. One way to judge is to count how many news articles were written on this MMA affair and compare that to the total number if articles on FM. I'm going to guess that ratio is small. If it were, then you should not include any mention. Similarly, I seriously doubt it deserves an entire section. To warrant an entire section would be similar to having an entire chapter in a biography dedicated to this MMA affair. If you can find a book on FM's life that has a chapter dedicated to MMA, then perhaps an entire section is appropriate. As I said before, this is just an opinion. I'm not here to judge—Work permit (talk) 22:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

At most, some small internet-only MMA sites and blogs have possibly mentioned it. Nothing more than that as far as I'm aware. 128.54.169.184 (talk) 22:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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i disagree, i do believe, at least the first back and forth was a big deal (i do agree that the second statement didnt get much attention), he made that (any boxer could become ufc champ) statement during HBO, it came on the evening news, it was on news sites, a fight deal was drawn up because of it (granted it was rejected by mayweather), and the media only stopped persuing the story because mayweather appoligized, it probably doesnt deserve its own section, but it only got that way because people kept saying mayweather was being unfairly critcized so i took all opinion out of it and changed it to quotes only, it originally started out as part of the oscar del hoya build up and i believe two or three sentences, i do thank you for your third opiniion though (75.172.242.15 (talk) 15:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)).

NYYIronHorse4 (talk) 06:55, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Requests to edit semi-protected articles must be accompanied by reference(s) to reliable sources.  Chzz  ►  08:34, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

 Not done

Mayweather didn't get the WBA title

It was not on the line...http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=5155050 —Preceding unsigned comment added by EpicPofBOE (talk • contribs) 07:27, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Pacquiao

I echo the sentiments below. Pacquiao called him on his bluff, Floyd showed his true intent of not fighting Pacquiao. I am a big fan, but this is disappointing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.178.224.130 (talk) 19:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Has now agreed to the blood tests and is just waiting for a response from Floyd. Surely this warrants inclusion. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12183_6193745,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maktardo (talk • contribs) 14:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

On July 14, 2010, Bob Arum publicized that Pacquiao accepted the terms of the random drug testing, blood and urine, leading up to the fight just to make this super fight happen. - http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/07/manny-pacquiao-agreed-to-drug-testing-all-the-way-to-the-fight/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.200.159.37 (talk) 05:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah this article is clearly biased towards Mayweather and flat out lies about Pacquiao. Pacquiao has agreed to the whole field of random drug testing, and Mayweather still has been dodging this fight. If the article's not gonna be altered to be less biased, at least open it up so visitors can fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.250.137 (talk) 23:29, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

I've edited the "future plans" section to reflect the fact that Pacquiao did indeed agree to drug testing until the day of the fight. I'm going to see if I can improve the section further to make it more neutral, but this should do for now. Cinderkun (talk) 20:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but there's a big difference between actual fact, and what promoters leak out into the media.

Both Manny and Arum were asked what they agreed to, in regards to drug testing, right after negotiations collapsed. Arum refused to give any information, and Manny stated that he had agreed to the 14 day cut off. You know, the fact that Manny is now saying 2 weeks after he's already signed for someone else that he "agrees to do full random testing" is just his own word against the 5-6 people who've said it's not the case.

Most sources linked to the fight stated pretty clearly, that the negotiations never went anywhere, because of a basic dispute on whether there should be a cut off date for drug testing or not.

Here'say from both sides is expected after the actual event

Cjmooney9 (talk) 16:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

"Yeah this article is clearly biased towards Mayweather and flat out lies about Pacquiao. Pacquiao has agreed to the whole field of random drug testing, and Mayweather still has been dodging this figh"

The article is a factual piece. There's nothing factual at all about rumours on fan boards. There's no evidence whatsoever that Manny agreed to full random testing during the negotiations. In fact, he himself states he didn't. As did Arum. They both state clearly that they only agreed to the 14 day cut off.

Boxers talking after the event, as a bit of PR, is what it is. It's easy to agree to all testing, when you're fighting someone else.

Pacquiao fans are sorry to say, notoriously, fanatical.

Cjmooney9 (talk) 16:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

"Bob Arum publicized that Pacquiao accepted the terms of the random drug testing, blood and urine, leading up to the fight just to make this super fight happen. - http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/07/manny-pacquiao-agreed-to-drug-testing-all-the-way-to-the-fight"

BoxingNews 24 is owned by Top Rank you muppet!? Nearly all of these fan contribution sites are little more than blogs for the fighters.

They're not professional sites. They're hyped up blogs, funded by the people involved, to leak what they want on to the web

Cjmooney9 (talk) 16:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Why is Undefeated Put in Quotation Marks?

He has never lost a professional boxing contest. By definition, this makes him undefeated. The quotation marks imply that this is somehow deceptive. 24.42.94.52 (talk) 02:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

There are millions of morons out there who believe that you can add quotes anywhere in order to add emphasis (or, as they would write it, "emphasis"). You'll probably love this site, which is devoted to photographs of this idiocy. 98.82.22.154 (talk) 18:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Pound for Pound

We get it, some people think Floyd is P4P#1. There is no need for 14 references to prove it. Did Leonard Ellerbe write this article?? Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 18:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Many fans, critics and writers choose The Ring Magazine Rankings / Ratings over other sources. Check back with DoghouseBoxing weekly for an updated list. - http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Ring/Ring071910.htm

The BBC Sports reference for Mayweather being number one in their pound-for-pound list should be removed. The site has no such a list. They only have a list for the best British boxers. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/default.stm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Negeo (talk • contribs) 15:19, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

This page looks incredibly biased toward Mayweather and has poor grammar in multiple areas.

eone heavily biased toward Mayweather has changed multiple sections of this page. This is not neutral at all. No other boxer has such a massive amount of information about their accomplishments at the start of their page. I also notice a large amount of incorrect grammar (randomly capitalized words, run-on sentences) that needs to be fixed. 69.149.214.61 (talk) 00:29, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's terrible. Is there anyway of protecting the article from User:Balagonj786? He has turned this page into a Mayweather love-fest. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 13:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Lots of error. Wrong grammar, inappropriate punctuation marks, wrong caps, etc. Some references dated more than a year ago. Some information are bias, always provide favoritism and positive statements that leads to un

I don't see why there is a problem with everything that he has accomplished being listed. He is turning out to be one of the best boxers ever.

If a situation happened in his life and its obviously a fact then yes it should be listed here.

Errors abound

Look at the opening:

Floyd Joy Mayweather, Jr., Jr. (born Floyd Sinclair on February 24, 1977), is an Undefeated American professional boxer. He is the son of Floyd Mayweather, Sr.

• "Jr., Jr."? Can boxing fans be that stupid?
• "He is the son of Floyd Mayweather, Sr." No shit? Is that a coincidence or what? Of COURSE he's the son of FM, Sr., you morons.
• Impressive as it is, this is en.wiki, not de.wiki, so "undefeated" doesn't need to be capitalized.

98.82.22.154 (talk) 18:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Pound For Pound List and References

• The reference for SportingLife.com has NO list of pound-for-pound list and an ERROR occur! - http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=boxing/10/06/08/manuel_213942.html

• The reference for TheSweetScience.com was dated in 2008 - http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/5718/pound-pound-list/
  Here is the current version - http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/8013/avila-pound-pound-list/

• The reference for DoghouseBoxing.com doesn't include a pound-for-pound list. - http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/DHBenz0318a10.htm It is an opinion of the writer.
  Here is the link for the DoghouseBoxing.com recognized pound-for-pound list - http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Ring/Ring070710.htm

• The reference for BoxingTalk.com was posted on MAY 21, 2004 by G. Leon - http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/pound4pound.php ..We are in now in year 2010!

• The reference for BoxingDaily.co.uk was posted on SEPTEMBER 26, 2006 - http://www.boxingdaily.co.uk/pound-for-pound-top-10-boxers-around-today/ ..Now its year 2010!

• The reference for EastSideBoxing.com was posted on AUGUST 13, 2007 by Gerard Wilson - http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=12052&more=1 ..We are now in year 2010!

• The reference for RonBorges.com was posted on MARCH 24, 2008 by Ron Borges - http://ronborges.com/2008/03/24/boxing-pound-for-pound-top-10/ ..We are now in year 2010!

• The reference for BBC Sports has NO pound-for-pound list - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/default.stm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Negeo (talk • contribs) 15:16, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Please post an updated and correct reference for this page. References reveals the TRUTH if Mayweather is still the current pound-for-pound this year. He might be the No.1 pound for pound in the past years but not this year 2010. PLEASE DON'T BE BIASED!

I also notice a large amount of incorrect grammar that needs to be fixed.

The PFP claims for Pacquiao are exactly the same. Shall I delete them as the reference is a year old?

Cjmooney9 (talk) 16:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Nicknames

The nicknames Pretty Boy Floyd and Money Mayweather should be Pretty Boy and Money only as per BoxRec - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000352&cat=boxer

There are no references that recognize Floyd Mayweather Jr. as the Pay Per View "King" (?) Cash Cow (?) Cash "King" (?) and specially T.B.E The Best Ever (What ??? Oh really???) Please provide references from a prominent boxing websites for this nicknames or else I will delete it!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doughn (talk • contribs) 04:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

A nickname is what the public calls the athlete, right? Take a quick swipe at Twitter and you'll soon figure out this guys new nickname is "Suckerpunch". I think it should be added to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.9.99.57 (talk) 11:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Candidate for revert

As this page has clearly crossed the line from neutral to biased quite some time ago, I suggest that we revert it to the following version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Floyd_Mayweather,_Jr.&oldid=361820279

If one compares the two, the differences in bias, accuracy, spelling and grammar are quite apparent. This is the version that existed just before User:Balagonj786 began to change the page to the heavily biased, inaccurate, and grammatically incorrect version that exists today. I recommend that this user be barred from editing this page any further. Cinderkun (talk) 08:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support Hopefully we can block the fanboys, Mayweather's and Pacquiao's, from the article. They need to realise that wikipedia is not a forum. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 09:01, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support It seems that only Mayweather's fans destroy the Manny Pacquiao page and this Floyd Mayweather, Jr. page. They put invalid, inaccurate and wrong information to both pages/articles. Moreover, User:Balagonj786 always insist that the references that he provides in this page are correct even if these references are too old and the given information are "too bias". I also notice more spelling, punctuation marks and grammar errors in this page/article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.200.158.134 (talk) 06:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support Lets protect and save this page from User:Balagonj786. This page has full of errors and invalid references. Doughn (talk) 02:45, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support I agree with the comments above. It is clear that the article is biased. Joaquin008 ^(talk) 08:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Please don't use simple fan numbers, to try and force through this type of thing. The Pacquiao page is probably the most biased thing I've ever read. There's even a section boasting about his endorsements.............50% of the information on there is either wrong, or useless boasting.........

Being factual about someone you don't like isn't biased. It's just stating what what happened. The fact that a lot of people want to try and portray the guy more negatively is their own problem.

Please stop this stupid power struggle, and just accept basic facts. There's nothing on this page that isn't actually true. If I'm seeing people trying to use fan numbers, to consensus build, in an attempt to put their own POV on the page, I'll put the wheels in motion to just get it locked.

Cjmooney9 (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Um, dude, you know that this page was reverted a long time ago, right? It's much better right now than it ever was, though it still needs a few small adjustments. This isn't about trying to make Mayweather look bad and Pacquiao look good. I've never even edited Pacquiao's page in my life. It's about improving Wikipedia articles so that they're about giving neutral information, not about expressing one's love of a particular boxer. So stop bringing up Pacquiao and take a look at some of Balagonj's old edits to see how horribly biased, grammatically incorrect, and spelling-error-ridden they were.

We made the page more neutral and higher-quality. That's it. Cinderkun (talk) 00:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Cinderkun, 31 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

I request that this page be reverted from the current version to the version that existed just before User:Balagonj786 began to edit the Floyd Mayweather page. Here is a link to said version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Floyd_Mayweather,_Jr.&oldid=361820279

Balagonj786 has refused to cooperate with other Wikipedia users and has attempted to force his version of the page onto Wikipedia by using edit warring instea

d of ratioIndented linenal discussion. Furthermore, Balagonj786 has distorted the accuracy, neutrality, spelling, and grammar of this page to such a degree that it would be easier to simply revert to an earlier, more neutral version. From that point, minor and neutral details can easily be added to update the article to July 2010 standards. Four other people have agreed with me in the talk page of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Therefore, I believe that the page should be reverted.

Cinderkun (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Done Dabomb87 (talk) 22:34, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Error.

"From July 18, 2005 through June 2, 2008 he was rated by The Ring magazine as the number-two pound for pound boxer in the world." This is clearly wrong. He was ranked number-one in that time frame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obamination19794876 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Change it then. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 00:33, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

There is a lot of mistakes on mayweather's article including pound for pound ratings, he was not rated number 2 but number 1 so i will revert the article back to how it was.Balagonj786 (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

The fanboys are back

I see the Mayweather fanboys have overtaken this page again....sigh. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

mr apple and cinderkun are vandaling this article 23:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Not vandalism, they only removed biased content, you like it or not, r to you your sockpuppet, there were a consensus. And If I like Pacquiao you must love Mayweather. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 23:11, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

We need to get them both banned. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 23:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed with Apples. He just vandalized the talk page, as well. I agreed and said that Balagonj and Jailbreaker are the same person, and then Jailbreaker removed what I said. Cinderkun (talk) 23:15, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

References.

The references for some of the pound for pound ratings are outdated. I suggest they either be updated or removed. I also encourage people to correct any grammatical errors. But as far as the information is concerned, it is a 100% accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obamination19794876 (talk • contribs) 08:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Mr Apples, when "fact" doesn't match your own POV on a subject, it's is your own problem. I feel you just want the page to have a more negative tone.

Cjmooney9 (talk) 16:33, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Introduction

The introduction to the article is far too long and is filled with unnecessary information. Awards such as For his achievements he was named Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year in 1998 and 2007; Best Fighter ESPY Award 2007, 2008 and currently 2010; BWAA Fighter of the Year 2007 by Boxing Writers Association of America; ESPN.com Fighter of the year 2007; The Ring Magazine event of the year 2007, 2008; and currently The Ring Magazine comeback of the year 2009 should be moved to another place in the article, if they aren't already.

Do we need to have a full paragraph of all the titles Mayweather used to hold? The fourth paragraph of the article is not grammatically correct. And rated by Prominent boxing websites and magazines as "Number 1" pound for pound boxer in the world such as... . Do we need to list all these websites? If so, can we simply state something to the effect of Mayweather is regarded by several boxing websites as the number 1 pound for pound boxer in the world. and provide the references at the end of the sentence?

I'm not sure if we need 2 whole paragraphs in the intro detailing his fight with Oscar De la Hoya and the money it generated. The last 2 paragraphs also seem a bit excessive.

I think an old revision of the page would suit the introduction nicely. This one looks pretty good. Courier00 (talk) 14:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

The version you suggest is very narrow. The info. written in this version might seem extreme to you but these are his accomplishments. If there are grammatical errors please correct them, otherwise the old version is just too narrow and lacks a great deal of information and detail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obamination19794876 (talk • contribs) 19:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he does have many accomplishments, but we don't need to list them all in the introduction of the article. The introduction is just that, an introduction, not a compilation of every website that lists Mayweather among their greatest boxers. Courier00 (talk) 23:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Some of the websites listed are a little too much and could be deleted. Otherwise can you please point out the differences in introduction between this page and thisManny_Pacquiaoone.

Indented line —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obamination19794876 (talk • contribs) 11:21, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Obamination19794876, not changing the Mayweather article just because the Pacquiao one is just as awful is not a good reason. I generally try and steer clear of these pages as it just seems people use it a a canvas to illustrate their love or hate of either boxer. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 18:33, 21 August 2010 (UTC) Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 18:33, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

You have to understand that these two names have been tied together for a while now and probably will be forever. It's only natural for myself or anyone else to weight. This is the reason i do not understand why this page has to be changed, while there is no difference between the two. Now i suggest that both pages stay as they are since they are very detailed and informative. For example, i did not know Mayweather is a nine time world champion just as i did not know Pacquiao is an eleven time world champion. This infromation was not included in the previous review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obamination19794876 (talk • contribs) 02:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

We can move all the excessive information to other parts of the article. We don't need it to be listed in the introduction. If you'll look at Manny Pacquiao's page, at the time of this comment, you'll see an introduction I wrote that still covers Pacquiao's major accomplishments without going on to list so many of his minor ones. The same could be applied to this article. Courier00 (talk) 14:36, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I would agree that the Pacquiao introduction has been much improved, it would be good to do the same to Mayweather. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 14:43, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

O.K.Obamination19794876 (talk) 22:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

As with the Pacquiao I agree the lead here needs to be cut down dramatically - most of the content should be in the article with the lead containing only the most notable (brief) facts of his career. --Errant [tmorton166] ^(chat!) 08:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I took the liberty of shortening the intro. Right now it's at a similar length to the pages of most other big-name boxers. I hope this isn't too much info to remove, but all the info I took out is already mentioned elsewhere in the article, and thus I figured that cutting that stuff out was fair.Cinderkun (talk) 04:02, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

really?

As a disclaimer: I don't edit wikipedia and don't want to. That being said how exactly is the WWE relevant to anything? If Mayweather were to guest star on a soap opera and "fight" someone would that really make it worth including? Should I be less subtle? And where exactly is the mention of Mayweather's 10 minute racist and homophobic tirade towards Pacquiao? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.22.236.230 (talk) 17:27, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Should the "neutrality disputed" message be removed now?

Right now everything seems fine and I don't see the point of keeping it up any longer. The page has stayed like it is for a while and nobody seems to have any problems with it. Cinderkun (talk) 07:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Jboneau, 14 November 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} On the paragraph that begins with: On July 19, 2010,... the 3rd sentence in the paragraph that reads: "Floyd Mayweather Jr denies involvement in talks over super-fight with Manny Pacquiao]</ref> Bob Arum responded, questioning that if there was no negotiation, then who imposed the gag order (referring to a gag order about the negotiation allegedly imposed on both camps) and who could there be a gag order from if there were no negotiations" the word "who" should be replaced with the word "how."

Jboneau (talk) 06:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Not done: I have not made the above change. Instead, after looking at the sources both before and after, I can't find any mention of the gag order anywhere. As such, I have removed that sentence. If someone has a reliable source that verifies what that sentence was claiming, please re-add with the source. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:59, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Jgl24, 24 November 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} There is a misspelling. One occurrence of "Pacquiao" is mistakenly spelled as "Pacquuiao".

Jgl24 (talk) 21:44, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Done Thanks! Qwyrxian (talk) 22:16, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I always wonder why there is so much hate on this guy. Manny Paqcuioa basically admitted to the world he's on steriods,turned down $40 million to avoid taking a drug test a whopping 2 weeks before the fight saying he hates needles and bla bla bla, and everyone blames and hates Mayweather.John Q12 (talk) 17:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Apkemistry, 5 June 2011

Please change fighting record from [loss: 1 for ducking pacquiao] to [loss: 0], he's undefeated. Thanks

Apkemistry (talk) 04:03, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done —C.Fred (talk) 04:11, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Additions

Some possible additions that are negative:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5527403

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA-W01zhHbM

You can decide if they are notable or not.

Wasbeer 20:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Username7212345, 11 June 2011

Please change:

Floyd Joy Mayweather, Jr. (born Floyd Sinclair on February 24, 1977), is an American professional boxer. He is a five-division world champion, where he has won nine world titles in five different boxing weight classes. He is undefeated as a professional boxer, with 41 wins including 25 by way of knockout. Many sports and boxing publications have considered him to be the pound-for-pound best boxer in the world at certain periods,[2] The Ring previously rated him as the number two pound-for-pound boxer in the world behind Manny Pacquiao, but has since been removed from their rankings as well as most others due to inactivity. [3]

To (because the previous version is far too vague, my version offers a detailed yet unbiased version which also includes points made by the previous author):

Floyd Joy Mayweather, Jr. (born Floyd Sinclair on February 24, 1977), is an American professional boxer. He is undefeated as a professional boxer, with 41 wins including 25 by way of knockout. He is the son of Floyd Mayweather, Sr. The Ring previously rated him as the number two pound-for-pound boxer in the world behind Manny Pacquiao, but has since been removed from their rankings as well as most others due to inactivity. From July 18, 2005 through June 2, 2008, he was rated by The Ring magazine as the number 1 pound for pound boxer in the world. Mayweather has won nine world boxing championships in five different boxing weight classes. For his achievements he was named Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year in 1998 and 2007; Best Fighter ESPY Award 2007, 2008 and currently 2010; BWAA Fighter of the Year 2007 by Boxing Writers Association of America; ESPN.com Fighter of the year 2007; The Ring Magazine event of the year 2007, 2008; and the The Ring Magazine comeback of the year 2009 He is the former WBC World Super Featherweight Champion, WBC World Lightweight Champion, The Ring World Lightweight Champion, WBC World Light Welterweight Champion, IBF World Welterweight Champion, The Ring World Welterweight Champion, WBC World Welterweight Champion and WBC World Super Welterweight Champion, and recognized by the WBC as an Emeritus Champion. Mayweather was involved in the most lucrative fight ever in boxing history. The fight was with six division world champion Oscar De La Hoya, with over $120 million in generated revenue and a record live gate of $19 million. A record total of 2.4 million household Pay-per-view buys were sold. Mayweather was ranked "Number 14" in Forbes Magazine's list of the Biggest Celebrity Paydays of 2007. On June 22, 2010, he was ranked 2nd on Forbes magazine's list of the "Richest and Powerful Sports Athletes of 2010" with earnings of $65 million ($65,000,000,00). He is also the co-founder of HBO 24/7 (TV series), HBO alongside Mayweather produced a series of countdowns previewing their big pay-per-view fights. Mayweather is one of two boxers ever in Compubox history to go an entire round without being hit by a power punch (any punch other than a jab), alongside Roy Jones, Jr. Username7212345 (talk) 18:00, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Per WP:LEAD that section should be concise and summarize the main points which the current section does. Jnorton7558 (talk) 13:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Username7212345, 11 June 2011

Please change this image seen beside the introduction:

thumb|Mayweather

To (because the previous image is outdated):

thumb|Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Username7212345 (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 23:12, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Marcriv80, 19 September 2011

Basically the entire paragraph related to Floyd Mayweather's most recent fight vs. Victor Ortiz requires editing due to extreme bias on the part of the author. Mayweather is accused of throwing a sucker punch which is not fact but rather opinion. Also Victor Ortiz' infraction where he headbutted Floyd Mayweather is referred to as "accidental" when in fact absolutely no evidence exists to establish whether or not Victor Ortiz either accidentally or purposefully headbutted Mayweather.

Please fix this immediately!

The Paragraph in dispute reads as follows:

On June 7, 2011, Mayweather announced via Twitter that he is set to fight WBC Welterweight Champion Victor Ortiz on September 17, 2011. Ortiz will be Mayweather's first challenger in 16 months.[80]

As part of the hype leading up to the fight, both fighters were featured in another installment of the award-winning sports reality series 24/7 on HBO. This was the fifth installment featuring Mayweather.

On September 17th, 2011, he defeated Ortiz via knockout in the fourth round with a blatant cheap shot. Prior to it, Ortiz accidentally head butted Mayweather, and after the referee took a point from Ortiz, Ortiz went to hug Mayweather and apologised for the head butt, but instead of allowing Ortiz to take a couple of steps back to rebegin properly, Mayweather, landed two very unprofessional punches which Koed Ortiz and allowed Mayweather to claim the WBC title. During the post fight interview, he insulted an 80 year old sports commentator in Larry Merchant, saying "You never give me a fair shake...They can put somebody else up here to give me an interview. HBO need to fire you. You don't know shit about boxing. You ain't shit...All of these boxing experts - how can you be a boxing expert if you never had a fight before?" Mayweather's outburst led to Merchant responding: "I wish I was 50 years younger so I'd kick your ass."[

Marcriv80 (talk) 08:30, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Already done Someone removed it very soon after it appeared. That being said, we do need a neutral summary of the fight, if someone would be willing to write one. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

New additions

Can someone who actually is familiar with the subject please very aggressively and significantly cut the new additions? This is an encyclopedia article, which should summarize Mayweather's overall work. We should not have a match-by-match listing; we definitely shouldn't have a round-by-round description like in some parts. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:35, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 86.180.185.61, 27 September 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please add the following to the the Domestic Violence cases section

In 2002 Mayweather was charged with two counts of domestic violence and one count of misdemeanor battery. He received a 6 month suspended sentence, 2 days of house arrest and was ordered to perform 48 hours of community service.[7]. In 2004 he was given a one year suspended jail sentence, ordered to undergo counseling for "impulse control" and pay a $1000 fine or perform 100 hours of community service after being convicted of two counts of misdemeanor battery against two women.[8] In 2005 Mayweather pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor assault charge after kicking a bouncer and received a 90 day suspended jail sentence.[9]

86.180.185.61 (talk) 20:30, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Seems legit, so, done - WP:BRD  Chzz  ►  04:38, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

 Done

Edit request from , 22 November 2011

the fight stated against pacquiou did not take place.

77.102.115.3 (talk) 03:11, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 05:54, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 22 November 2011

Someone changed Victor Ortiz to Manny Pacquaio & made the win a loss here:

|style="background: #FFE3E3; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="table-no2" |Loss |42–0 ||align=left| [[Manny Pacquiao] |KO |4 (12), 2:59 |2011-09-17 |align=left| MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada |align=left|Won WBC World Welterweight Title.

See what I think is supposed to be the original source: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000352&cat=boxer 68.98.76.137 (talk) 06:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Has been fixed already. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 April 2012

In the section about the controversial 1996 Olympic Semi-final, there is a place where it says "intimated" where it should be "intimidated."

24.7.179.117 (talk) 05:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Done Thanks, Celestra (talk) 00:21, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 April 2012

Please remove the section of Floyd Mayweather Jr's info pertaining to his "negotiations" with Manny Paquiao. Many of the "references" posted are actually from opinion based info sites and not actual news articles, they are not verified hence can't be deemed reliable. Ruthlesspno1 (talk) 06:06, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. I can't quite tell specifically what you want removed, and I'm not sure if there's consensus to do something like that. Could you please specify which sources aren't reliable? ~Adjwilley (talk) 03:01, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

DV charges

Why is Mayweathers crimnal history buried near the bottom. This should be at the top near his personal info. The article should reflect Mayweather as a person prior to his in ring accomplishments and not use his impressive in ring activity to over shadow his seedy actions.

Its also hard to unstand why Mayweathers repeated racialy charge comments go unreported when most athletes pages are littered with them?

24.101.172.61 (talk) 18:06, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

PPV Buy Note

The note at the end of the Mayweather vs. Ortiz section is incorrect; Floyd is not the first person to have three consecutive fights on PPV that all broke one million domestic buys.

Brock Lesnar had three consecutive fights from 2009-2010 that did 1.6 (UFC 100), 1.1 (UFC 116), and 1.05 (UFC 121) million buys respectively.

Mike Tyson had three consecutive fights from 1996-1997 that did 1.01 (vs. Seldon), 1.59 (vs. Holyfield), and 1.99 (vs. Holyfield II) million buys respectively, but there was a fight in there that aired on network TV, but the latter three numbers were all consecutive fights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.13.138.152 (talk) 03:48, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Request Change

The most recent (topmost) fight under the heading 'Professional Boxing Record' is listed as taking place in the future (2012-12-06). References to the result of this fight should probably be removed until it actually takes place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.46.45.182 (talk) 04:25, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Request change

Floyd Mayweather won the WBA light middleweight title from Cotto, this accomplishment should be at the top near his personal info, so please edit the from page... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdul1985 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 May 2012

Can the header be updated?

Mayweather is now an *eight time world champion across 5 weight classes

He now also holds the current *WBA Super Welterweight title

http://wbanews.com/artman/publish/campionshipChampions/index.shtml

In fact he is *WBA Super Welterweight Super Champion once checking the website in the fighter of the month section here

http://wbanews.com/artman/publish/campionshipSuperBeltWinners/index.shtml

as well as *WBC Diamond Belt along with the WBC Welterweight Title

http://wbcboxing.com/wbcVersEng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=12

thank you very much, and also he is rated by boxrec as number 1 pound for pound... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdul1985 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

67.226.21.181 (talk) 16:33, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 04:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

here is the source direct from boxrec [[10]] stating he is a 8 times boxing world champion and current wba super welterweight champion. Abdul1985 (talk) 13:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

BoxRec is an encyclpedia (a tertiary source) and is not under editorial control. Please read WP:RS.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 04:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

here is the source for the WBC diamond belt that Floyd Mayweather captured from his win against Miguel Cotto [[11]] Abdul1985 (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

fair enough how about new WBA light middleweight champion?? and 8 times world champion, this page needs editing. --Abdul1985 (talk) 11:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC) Not done: Re-wording not necicery - it says he is a champion across 5 different weight classes, not how many times he's won Mdann52 (talk) 08:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

May 24, 2012

He now also holds the current *WBA Super Welterweight title

http://wbanews.com/artman/publish/campionshipChampions/index.shtml

In fact he is *WBA Super Welterweight Super Champion once checking the website in the fighter of the month section here

http://wbanews.com/artman/publish/campionshipSuperBeltWinners/index.shtml

as well as *WBC Diamond Belt along with the WBC Welterweight Title

http://wbcboxing.com/wbcVersEng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.226.15.80 (talk) 14:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Floyd Mayweather is a WBA super welterweight champion and WBC diamond champion too must be noted on article..--Abdul1985 (talk) 00:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. please answer this question for me. Why would you spend $30,000.00 - $100,000.00 dollars at a night club on stripper when there are HBCU's (Historical Black College and Universities) that are in danger of being closed? I would like to see those of you that have and can donate to an HBCU or any college or University to please do so. We, the people who support you and make it possible for you to have your riches, would love to see you give back to those that are struggling and trying to get a college education. Traditionally, HBCU's do not receive the amount of money that is given to the predominately white universities and their educational programs are in danger of being dissolved on a yearly basis. I am challenging you to challenge others to come to the aide of the HBCU's and to give a monetary donation to help struggling students who would not be able to get an education without your help.

Thanking you in advance, Jackson State University Alumni Marie Brown P.O. Box 83175 Jackson, Mississippi

         39283-3175  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.127.95 (talk) 17:10, 18 November 2012 (UTC) 

College Donations

Mr. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. please answer this question for me. Why would you spend $30,000.00 - $100,000.00 dollars at a night club on stripper when there are HBCU's (Historical Black College and Universities) that are in danger of being closed? I would like to see those of you that have and can donate to an HBCU or any college or University to please do so. We, the people who support you and make it possible for you to have your riches, would love to see you give back to those that are struggling and trying to get a college education. Traditionally, HBCU's do not receive the amount of money that is given to the predominately white universities and their educational programs are in danger of being dissolved on a yearly basis. I am challenging you to challenge others to come to the aide of the HBCU's and to give a monetary donation to help struggling students who would not be able to get an education without your help.

Thanking you in advance, Jackson State University Alumni Marie BrownItalic text P.O. Box 83175 Jackson, Mississippi

         39283-3175  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.127.95 (talk) 17:17, 18 November 2012 (UTC) 

Surgery following Castillo fight

Floyd did not have a shoulder surgery following Castillo fight.

"After the fight, Mayweather received a cortisone shot in the shoulder and then went through a couple of months of physical therapy to strengthen his arm. He didn't need surgery.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/floyd-jr-fights-back-article-1.507030#ixzz2UXIdrY4C" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.93.67 (talk) 22:50, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

The reference that is used for this http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/mayweather-picks-fight-press-article-1.495143, by the same author says "He had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo..." We need another source.--Don King's hair (talk) 01:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

PPV table

Why do you want to remove the table of Pay-per-view bouts from the article? It is good information.--Don King's hair (talk) 18:29, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

You can put it back of you want. I just can't find the numbers for the Guerrero fight. --2Nyce 01:52, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 July 2013

This article states he lives in Sun City Summelin, NV. That is not possible for two reasons. One, that is not even a city. It is only a community within Las Vegas. Two, it is an age restricted community and he is not old enough to live there full time. It should say he lives in Las Vegas, NV as the story it credits as the source states. 68.227.34.132 (talk) 07:02, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Done with thanks, NiciVampireHeart 13:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Floyd Mayweather Jr Championship Belts

It's a fact that Floyd has won more then 8 world titles it say's 8(my Source (Boxrec.com)) Also he has captured the Lineal Championship in 4 weight classes but it say's 3(my Source (Boxrec.com)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LuckyDollaz90 (talk • contribs) 10:32, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 September 2013

can someone fix floyd's championships won overall n linael and the ring championships. on www.boxrec.com say's he has one well over 11 Championships n also has one The Ring in Light Middleweight to. also he is the Lineal Champion in 4 weight-classes here it has 3. can someone please fix

LuckyDollaz90 (talk) 10:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Not done:: Please say exactly what you need corrected and where in the article. Please could you also say exactly which pages on boxrec.com support these statements? Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 15:36, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 October 2013

Please change four to three lineal championships in different weight classes won. He only won three from Lightweight, Welterweight (2X) and Middleweight. Source (Wikipedia; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Ring_world_champions) -->

Vanz1217 (talk) 06:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Not done:. 2xwelterweight possibly counts as 2 rather than 1. Please note that we cannot use Wikipedia articles as sources. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 15:38, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Hyperinflation?

"Mayweather vs. Ortiz ($78,440,000 million) and Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley ($78,330,000 million)" There are tautologies occurring. --49.145.1.35 (talk) 17:55, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Done Thanks.--Don King's hair (talk) 22:03, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2014

On Floyd Mayweather Jr's page it says the following: "Pacquiao agreed to give blood until 14 days before the fight, which is closer to the fight day than the 18-day cutoff in Mayweather's previous bout against Mosley"

Floyd DID NOT have an 18-day cutoff regarding blood testing against Mosley. Both fighters had to do random blood and urine testing up until the fight. When the last day of testing was, is irrelevant, since there always was a chance for the Nevada state athletic commission to come an take a test without an warning.

Please correct the faulty information!

The correct text is found in the "Floyd Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley" article. 84.250.1.208 (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

• Not done: Better quality duplicated request below. Technical 13 (talk) 20:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2014

On Floyd Mayweather Jr's page it says the following: "Pacquiao agreed to give blood until 14 days before the fight, which is closer to the fight day than the 18-day cutoff in Mayweather's previous bout against Mosley"

Floyd DID NOT have an 18-day cutoff regarding blood testing against Mosley. Both fighters had to do random blood and urine testing up until the fight. When the last day of testing was, is irrelevant, since there always was a chance for the Nevada state athletic commission to come an take a test without an warning.

Please correct the faulty information!

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_vs._Shane_Mosley
• http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4870999

The correct text is found in the "Floyd Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley" article. 84.250.1.208 (talk) 18:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Done Hasteur (talk) 20:32, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Removal of section in controversy section

In the section "controversy" the topic "Stripped of WBO Welterweight Champion Title" should be removed altogether. It is already stated above. Also this is in no way controversial. Being stripped his WBO title was due to him failing to comply with WBO rules, resulting in him being stripped. This is a very standard rule for the WBO and very common in boxing. It happens to many other fighters every year such as Demetrius Andrade [12]. my point is it is pointless mentioning in the 'controversy' section because it is very common and in no way controversial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacbradley2 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2014

Hello guys, In the boxing titles list the entry "WBA Welterweight Champions (147 lbs)" should be added. This is the title Floyd won against Maidana on May 3 2014 as correctly described in the Professional Boxing Record Table in the notes column

Thanks for your time and best regards Emazomenos (talk) 17:49, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 01:38, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

I thought that the fact that the wba welterweight title is added in the notes column of the fight against Maidana should be enough. Please find a link to espn's boxing champions listing for reference http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/champions. Thanks

Emazomenos Dear editors of this entry. To my view my previous request for editing of the Boxing titles list by adding the WBA welterweight title captured at May 3rd has not being answered. I am thus re-opening the request and I will be expecting your comments. Thank you

As far as I can tell, this has been done. If I am mistaken, please feel free to re-open the request. —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 04:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Unique business model

I'm surprised this article doesn't yet have a section on Mayweather's "unique business model" since that is such a large part of his financial success relative to the masses of other boxers who ended up with a very small proportion of the gate for their fights. Here are a couple articles in case some one wants to get started on this:

• http://www.thestar.com/business/2012/05/02/floyd_money_mayweathers_unique_business_model_punch_him_then_pay_him.html
• http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2192887-making-money-how-floyd-mayweather-produces-boxings-biggest-fights

—Noah (talk) 16:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2014

The "Mayweather vs. Castillo I" section has a clear pro-Mayweather bias, completely overlooks the controversy surrounding that decision, implies that Harold Lederman was the only person who thought Castillo won the fight—which obviously is not the case—and suggests that the only reason the Compubox numbers heavily favored Castillo was because Castillo "repeatedly hit on the break." The following changes should be made:

1) The first paragraph of the section lists the judges' scorecards, as well as the AP and Daily News cards, which all had Mayweather winning the fight. However, in the third paragraph, after the one sentence that states, "At the end of the fight, Harold Lederman had Castillo winning 115–111," the following should be added: Ringside commentators Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant also felt that the judges made the wrong decision. After Mayweather's victory was announced, Lampley said, "Not the fight we saw. Definitely not the fight that this announcing team was watching at ringside. Not the first time it's happened." Merchant later added, "I don't think there's much controversy. I think most people think that Castillo won...But the house fighter got the decision." [Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCTWc3xFiw (105:33)]

This paragraph should conclude with the sentence (originally in the 5th paragraph of the section) that reads, "Compubox statistics indicated that Castillo landed more overall punches and significantly more power shots over the course of the fight."

The next paragraph should be the bit about Kellerman disputing Lederman's card: ESPN's Max Kellerman disputed Lederman's scoring, writing in his boxing column: "Harold Lederman, the (HBO) unofficial ringside television judge, gave the third round to Castillo, which I think demonstrates that Mayweather suffers from the same scoring syndrome that afflicted Pernell Whitaker. Mayweather is so seldom hit cleanly in his face, that when a clean shot is landed against him it registers all out of proportion in the observer's mind. Meanwhile, the three clean shots Mayweather just landed against his opponent do not make the same kind of impression".[76]

Then eliminate the following, regarding the Compubox numbers and Lederman's card: "however, these statistics did not accurately reflect the judging (rounds are scored in isolation). Mayweather also outscored Castillo in jabs thrown and landed. Lederman's scoring for this fight may be seen as inconsistent; in both Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor fights Lederman had Taylor winning 115–113, despite Hopkins landing more overall punches and significantly more power shots during both fights.[77][78] Taylor threw and landed more jabs, however." These are all tangential attacks on Lederman, whose card was already criticized in the previous paragraph. It was clearly written by a Mayweather supporter trying to defend a controversial win and brush off any criticism/evidence that he should actually have lost the fight.

2) Eliminate the following sentence: "Mayweather won the fight by using his jab effectively and staying away from Castillo for much of the fight." Anyone who saw the fight knows that that's an absurd statement, as Castillo controlled most of the fight and had Mayweather on the ropes a number of times.

3) Eliminate the following sentence: "With Castillo repeatedly hitting on the break, this led to a large number of his punches landing." Castillo landed over 200 punches. The idea that a "large number of his punches" landed because he hit 3 or 4 times on the break is absurd.

4) Eliminate "by the pro-Castillo crowd" from the following sentence: "Judges Jerry Roth and John Keane scored it 115–111 and judge Anek Hongtongkam scored it 116–111, a decision that was loudly booed by the pro-Castillo crowd." The sentence as it's written implies that the only reason the crowd booed is because they were "pro-Castillo," rather than because many impartial observers believed that Castillo should have won the fight. Also, the fight was held at the MGM Grand, Mayweather's adopted home, whereas Castillo is a native of Mexico.

5) The following sentence-"He defeated Castillo, winning the WBC and vacant Ring lightweight titles with a 12-round unanimous decision at the MGM Grand Garden Arena before a crowd of 6,920"-should be changed to read, "He defeated Castillo in a controversial decision, winning the WBC and vacant Ring lightweight titles with a 12-round unanimous decision at the MGM Grand Garden Arena before a crowd of 6,920." This lead sentence of the section should reflect the fact that this was by far the most controversial decision of Floyd Mayweather's historic career.

TheDudabides (talk) 18:59, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

 Not done Whether or not the current article "has a clear pro-Mayweather bias" as you claim, your proposed changes appear to have a clear anti-Mayweather bias, and more importantly, other than one You-tube video for a quote, is unreferenced. Information needs to be sourced from reliable sources and statements such as "Anyone who saw the fight knows that that's an absurd statement," are just your PoV. - Arjayay (talk) 16:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

My proposed changes hardly have an "anti-Mayweather bias." I just find it odd that the ringside commentators who called the fight on HBO were openly speculating that the fight was wrongly decided—and was intentionally done so for financial reasons—and somehow that didn't find its way into this entry. I sourced these statements with a link to the YouTube video of the broadcast. You could also mention that Steve Kim, who was on press row that night, had Castillo winning 116-112 and later wrote that, "In many ways you could call it a business decision, after all, while both were then under the Top Rank promotional banner, it was Mayweather who was the American and former Olympian, who had the HBO contract and the upside." (http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/73723228/jose-luis-castillo-nearly-beat-floyd-mayweather-12-years-ago)

Again, I don't have an anti-Mayweather bias whatsoever; I just think these are important facts that were inexplicably omitted from this entry. Mayweather's an all-time great, but this was an extremely controversial decision, and this article should make that clear. Like I said in my original request, the most telling part of this entry is the bizarre attempt to discredit Lederman's card, which, in keeping with the rest of section on Mayweather/Castillo I, reads more like a defense of Mayweather than an unbiased accounting of the facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDudabides (talk • contribs) 06:24, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 21:12, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

I'll add to a consensus. The changes should be made.NerdNinja9 (talk) 19:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Actual name of subject and title of article - exclude "Jr."?

Is the name being given to the subject of this article accurate? According to him, his name is NOT "Floyd Mayweather, Jr.": http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12691750 In addition to the reference that cites the individual himself (who can be considered a reliable source for the information, with no reason to suspect bias or inaccuracy), this article itself indicates that the subject has a different name ("Floyd Joy Sinclair", which he changed to "Floyd Joy Mayweather") from his father ("Floyd Mayweather"), indicating that he is not "Jr." It seems most likely that (a) because the subject has the same first and last name as his father, people simply assumed he was a "Jr."; and (b) because both are/were in the same profession (boxing), people found it easy to differentiate the two by using "Jr." and "Sr.", thus perpetuating an assumption that has no factual basis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F470:A:1:154E:97C0:8D92:FA8E (talk) 17:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2015

If you search for "Mayeather" you'll see what the problems is... 198.2.5.101 (talk) 11:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Kharkiv07^Talk 12:03, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request- Add to controversy section

Please add the IV controversy of Mayweather's use of a prohibited intravenous infusion one day before the Pacquiao fight. The renown boxing journalist, Thomas C. Hauser, wrote an excellent article on this controversy. Here is the link to the article: http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada?_ga=1.56744106.147125675.1426561299. This story broke on September 9, 2015 and most of the major media outlets reported it (ESPN, Time Magazine, Reuters, AP). All of these news outlets have links to their articles about these revelations. Thomas Hauser is a very credible source. He wrote the authoritative award winning biography of Muhammad Ali entitled "Muhammad Ali: His Life and Times."

I wrote the prospective addition... Please feel free to use it, or use parts of it, or not use it and write your own addition. Here it is:

On May 1, 2015 after the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao pre-fight weigh in, USADA collection agents conducted a random unannounced drug testing on Mayweather at his Las Vegas home. The collection agents found evidence that an intravenous infusion (IV) was administered to Mayweather. Mayweather's medical team told the agents that it administered 750ml of saline and vitamins via IV to rehydrate Mayweather.[Souce #1] Renown boxing writer, Thomas Hauser stated: "The mixes themselves are not prohibited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), which sets the standards that USADA purports to follow. However, their intravenous administration is prohibited by WADA."[1] WADA prohibits intravenous infusions of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period. Hauser continues to state, "[the prohibition] exists because, in addition to being administered for the purpose of adding specific substances to a person’s body, an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient’s system or might be added to it in the near future." [1] Victor Conte stated, "it doesn’t make sense to me. There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you’d have far greater benefits. It’s very suspicious to me. I can tell you that IV drugs clear an athlete’s system more quickly than drugs that are administered by subcutaneous injection."[1] Mayweather denied any wrongdoing.[Source #2] On May 19, 18 days after the Pacquiao fight, Mayweather applied for a "retroactive therapeutic use exemption" (TUE) for the prohibited procedure. On May 20, the USADA approved the application. 20 days after the fight, the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) was notified of the TUE for the prohibited procedure.[Source #1] Executive Director of the NSAC, Bob Bennett stated, "The TUE for Mayweather’s IV - and the IV was administered at Floyd’s house, not in a medical facility, and wasn’t brought to our attention at the time - was totally unacceptable. I’ve made it clear to Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did."[Source #1]

Source #1: ^ Jump up to: a b c d e f "Can Boxing Trust USADA's drug testing?". SBNation.com. Retrieved 2015-09-14. Source #2: Jump up ^ "Floyd Mayweather denies claims of doping offence before Pacquiao fight". the Guardian. Retrieved 2015-09-14. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmjokerjm (talk • contribs) 21:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Record table reformatting

There has been much discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing and Talk:Joe Calzaghe as to the complete removal of flagicons on professional record tables, as well as other changes. User:TwoNyce appears to object to all of this, having reverted my edits three times now, but hasn't offered an opinion other than "Not gonna discuss situation on a separate article." So, let's discuss. However, I would suggest a more extensive discussion at WikiProject Boxing instead, as the potential changes have far-reaching implications beyond just this article—it just happens to be a prominent one; like a launchpad to enact a mass change. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:32, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2015

on

history

I think you should add the pacquio fight was probably mayweather biggest fight of has career. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather,_Jr.

it says

Mayweather has generated approximately $1,311,000,000 in pay-per-view revenue and $19,530,000 in pay-per-view buys throughout his career, surpassing the likes of former top pay-per-view attractions Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao.[20]

the "$19,530,000"

should not have a $ sign as it is referring to a number not a dollar amount.

96.55.192.203 (talk) 13:26, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Done RudolfRed (talk) 19:04, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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Boxrec Ratings

"BoxRec currently rates Mayweather as the fifth greatest pound for pound fighter of all time,[4] and the greatest pound for pound welterweight of all time.[4]"

Should be edited, no longer rated as fifth greatest pound for pound or greatest pound for pound welterweight of all time.

http://boxrec.com/records rated sixth greatest pound for pound and second greatest pound for pound welterweight of all time. 2601:206:4101:3B07:1DB9:BF73:3FCF:34F1 (talk) 09:11, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 13:41, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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first line should read "a retired American professional boxer," not "an American retired professional boxer"

(also let's be real; he's not really retired)

No such thing as a "retired American"—an American is an American (or citizen) first and foremost, followed by their status of occupation. Plus, it should be "former professional boxer" instead of retired, as he still actively works as a promoter. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:13, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Boxrec.com currently ranks him as the greatest pound for pound of all times. This should be included in the initial paragraph. Mcgrosser (talk) 02:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

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You removed the accomplishments I have added that Floyd has fine in the ring, I have provided references and you deleted them as if Floyd wants the most accurate puncher via compubox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacbradley2 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Firstly, I would ask that you please sign your posts using ~~~~. Secondly, what is it regarding the lead section that you want changing from its current revision? The paragraphs look fine as they are (they really needed cleaning up from last time, as the content was over the place), so is it just the championship number that you have an issue with? Also, why is the part about "greatest" vs. "one of the greatest" such a big deal? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Came out of retirement

Mayweather has unretired: "I’m coming out of retirement just to fight Conor McGregor." https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/11/floyd-mayweather-retirement-conor-mcgregor-fight — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:630:12:10C0:384D:2280:599B:4987 (talk) 14:01, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

We all know of Mayweather's retirement/un-retirement antics over the past decade, so let's wait for an official confirmation of a fight—with a date—before changing his status yet again. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:51, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Mac thinks he owns boxing articles and is wrong again...2600:100F:B004:6235:9477:F0AB:A45C:22C4 (talk) 00:39, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

At least change the last line of the "Potential Comeback" section because Dana White has talked to Mayweather and Dana White says the fight will happen. [13] 2602:304:788B:DF50:8CDD:5461:389A:631B (talk) 19:10, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

bump.. please fix the Dana White quote issue. 2602:304:788B:DF50:8CDD:5461:389A:631B (talk) 21:16, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

How about someone fix the Dana White quote or unlock the article? If the article is so stagnant. no one sees this to fix it. Why is it locked? 2602:304:788B:DF50:8CDD:5461:389A:631B (talk) 22:54, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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