Talk:Fageol

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Image of 1915 "train"

Fageol "Trackless Train" at the Panama–Pacific International Exposition, 1915, San Francisco

I have restored the 1915 photo of the Fageol tractor pulling attendees at the Panama–Pacific International Exposition. It was deleted twice by anonymous IP editor. The image has every right to be in the article, as it shows a Fageol product. Binksternet (talk) 18:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even though the "trackless train" was created in 1915, a fuller history of Fageol Motors would discuss how this could be, how two Fageol brothers created the company from an automobile dealership that was capable of such fabrication. Binksternet (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not believe this picture should be part of the Fageol Motor Company article. The inventor of the Auto train, R.B. Fageol, never worked for Fageol Motors. The train was not built by Fageol Motors, in fact was in operation before Fageol Motors was incorporated. The development of the Fageol Motors Company did not stem from the Auto Train, but from the Jeffery Car and Truck Agency owned by F.R Fageol. The Auto train was not built in the Auto dealership.

A more suitable picture would be of the 2 ton trucks built before the Fageol factory was built. The trucks were the first products for sale by the Fageol Motor Company.

Sources: Fageol family research records. These records have been developed over many years by extensivce research of the newspapers, trade journals and magazines of this era. In addition, there are intervies of the Fageol brothers, other company officials and factory employees of the Fageol Motor Company. Family scrapbooks were maintained from the early 1900's that povided valuable insights into the family history.

The history of the Fageol family and their many accomplishmentsw is currently in draft form and will be published soon.

Note: some of the information in the sources listed in the Wikipedia article is not accurate, but seems to be opinions of the authors. Many sources are merely compliations of internet articles without verification of accuracy.

respectfully submitted, William B. Fageol III fageol@gmail.com

Ka9a (talk) 04:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That argument is the first I've heard of two different groups of Fageol surname people making vehicles in the SF Bay Area during the 1910s. If true, it is strong enough to take the image out. Binksternet (talk) 16:51, 26 Se ptember 2010 (UTC)

R.B Fageol, a prolific inventor, contributed to the transportation industry in many ways. Not only did he contribute automobile and mass transit designs but his patents formed the basis of modern truck severe service suspensions that are sold by Hendrickson. Source of the Hendrickson information is an SAE paper written by Ed Hendrickson, as well as many long discussions with him during ATA conventions. As these activities are clearly separate from Fageol Motors, please remove the Auto Train photo and replace it with a Fageol truck, preferably one from the early 1900's. Thank you, William Fageol Ka9a (talk) 05:10, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]