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England manager
[edit]"In mid-March, Capello reportedly confirmed an interest in the soon to be vacated England postion, making him by far the most successful manager linked with the post."
- This is a dubious statement: Scolari has been linked to the England position and he's won the World Cup. I think this should be tempered down a little. LP
- I disagree. Scolari has, in his career, won the World Cup and three major Brazilian/South American trophies. These trophies are usually bandied about by four or five teams. Capello has won La Liga with Madrid, the Scudetto with Roma (in debt!), Milan and Juventus, the Italian Cup (thrice) and the European cup. More than double, and in more difficult circumstances, most would agree.
-I agree too. Total trophies are 12-6 in Capello's favour, and he's got a bigger reputation.
- Fair enough. I was thinking that the World Cup is the most prestigous trophy in football, and therefore outweighs the number of trophies held by Capello. However I concede that in terms of actual difficulty, Capello's achievments are probably greater. LP
-Um...Scolari has beaten, and knocked out, England in the last two major tournaments. Cabbage Man does not compare to Felipao. World Cup triumphs over rigged Scudettos. Be Champions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.47.50 (talk) 00:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Capello has taken back his words that he won't play Beckham ever right?--Vindicta 03:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
-Since Beckham just scored a goal for Real Madrid against Real Sociedad, I think that's a safe assumption. Say dumb things in a fit of pique, get made to look like a total wanker later on, that's the lesson here. 70.144.1.239 02:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
-There's a dubious, poorly written paragraph quoting Capello's interest in taking the vacant Tottenham Hotspur job. I have deleted this as current manager Martin Jol is still manager of the club and the quotation hasn't been cited. DM 90.193.239.88 00:47, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
-It says Capello became coach of England as of December 3, 2007, not true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.14.168.43 (talk) 21:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
-Now it says "On 22 November 2007,Capello became the new manager of England." which also isn't true. I don't really want to update it yet as the appointment may actually be today and it'd make more sense to do it after that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.14.43 (talk) 11:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Juventus titles
[edit]Just to note that in Capellos record winning the two titles with Juve should not be included. As far as officia records are concerned with the two titles, one is void and one was awarded to Inter. All official records now have all Inter players of the 2005/06 season and manager Roberto Mancini as having won that title. Therefore for it to be included on Capellos record is incorrect as far as official records are concerned as it is Roberto Mancini's title. It is not up for argument, at the moment this is recorded on Capello's page and Roberto Mancini's page, how can two managers win the same title for different teams? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.250.31.197 (talk) 13:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. I mean if I took drugs and won the 100 metres at the olympics, if I was disqualified I wouldn't be credited with winning the race. However you look at it, Juve did not win those titles fairly, and therefore Capello did not win them fairly either. The titles should not be accredited to him therefore. --Simonski (talk) 14:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- One more vote for not ascribing titles to those who didn't win them. I just came to edit that part of the article, and then found I couldn't since the page is protected. Nothing more to say on the subject, is there? Juventus played by different rules to everyone else, so they didn't take part in, and consequently couldn't win, the competition. /Josh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.85.244 (talk) 20:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
The English press keep harping on about Capello winning league titles with four different clubs; Milan, Juventus, Roma and Real Madrid. This is blatantly WRONG. The titles he "won" with Juventus, during a period when they have been found guilty of cheating, have been stripped from the club. Therefore Mr Capello cannot be said to have won the league with Juventus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.136.70 (talk) 22:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- yes, and it is no wonder, cause he's england's coach, just to make their coach look better. as soon as he's gone, they won't talk about 4 clubs anymore. 91.15.133.30 (talk) 20:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- To be fair Capello himself was never implicated in the scandal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.236.119 (talk) 02:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Discussions
[edit]I rearranged the discussion page around to make it more easier to read enjoy. Pathfinder2006 (talk) 10:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
England team
[edit]I've noticed how the section is beginning to get untidy with a description of every game that has been played whilst he's been england manager being listed in the article. Sure this can be tidied up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.97.61 (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
For the moment the description of the three games themselves are brief and informative, and do not cause a problem (but will do once more matches are played). The problems are the excsessive details of the first England sqaud Capello picked which seemed important at the time, but seem irrelevant now. I will cut down this section in the coming days, keeping the most important points. I am also thinking of creating a sub-heading "early friendlies" to cover this period. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 19:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I have made a few small changes to the formatting order. As time progresses and the significance of these early games discreases, the accounts of them should be cut back - but for the moment they seem fairly relevant. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 19:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]Someone broke the infobox - I tried to fix it, but I can't identify the edit that caused the problem. Could someone who knows infoboxes track down the error and put it right? Katharineamy (talk) 21:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
"Quite a useful decision"
[edit]Why has somebody written that Capello's decision to use Walcott as opposed to Beckham was "Quite a useful decision"? It was a brilliant decision! Theo scored 3 goals! Over-the-hill, media-hyped Beckham would not have had that impact, or even have contributed half as well as Thea did. The person who wrote "Quite a useful decision" is likely to be part of David's Public Relation Team! I will change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard LVP Real (talk • contribs) 15:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Recentism
[edit]Capello is one of the most successful European football managers of the last two decades, who has consistently won trophies during that period. He has been the England manager for slightly less than one year... and yet, Capello's stint with the England team takes up about half of the 'Managerial career' section. For heaven's sake, do we really need to know precisely which minute the second goal of Fabio Capello's reign as England manager was scored? Can't we just delete some of that crap? R Lowry (talk) 12:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Spat with Di Canio
[edit]Should this be mentioned?--EchetusXe (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Picture
[edit]change that picture, its unflattering and unpleasant to look at. ---- 78.86.197.76 (talk) 17:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- im not cause i don't know how to do it but your right in what your saying —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.130.109 (talk) 07:46, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Career statistics
[edit]The statistics for Capello's time as manager of Milan, Roma, Juventus and Real Madrid are incorrect - for Milan, Roma and Juventus, it states that he was in charge for 0 games; for Real Madrid, there are no figures for how many matches he managed them for, or how many they won; there are no win percentages as a result for any of these teams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.169.76 (talk) 19:11, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
- You are right. I removed the 0s. -Koppapa (talk) 22:44, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Edit request from Patjn, 2 July 2010
[edit]{{editsemiprotected}} On 2nd July 2010, the Football Asociation announced that Capello would remain as the coach of the England national side following speculation over his future following the world cup 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/teams/england/7869342/Fabio-Capello-thrown-England-lifeline-by-embarrassed-Football-Association.html
Patjn (talk) 13:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- /DeltaQuad|Notify Me\ 00:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Done -- /DeltaQuad|Notify Me\ 01:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Edit Request
[edit]It's the correction of an old vandalism. In the section regarding his playing career, Roma never won 10-9 with Juventus. The actual score was 1-0. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.36.52.225 (talk) 21:45, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Far too much weight given to England managerial career.
[edit]It is quite ridiculoslu weighted toward England. Considering that he is one of the most succesful managers around, and that he achieved almost nothing of note during his England career, the fact that the England managerial section is bigger than the rest of that section and that nearly half the lead is given to his England career is quite ridiculous. I will be trimming it down unless anyone objects and am going to tag it aswell. I reall don't see the need for every friendly result as well as the huge amount of speculation in the England section. Adam4267 (talk) 22:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Agree, it needs to be trimmed. Over time it has slowly gathered new additions until it has become a huge block of unweildy text which goes into far too much detail in some places. Having said that, in spite of his success in club football, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the vast majority of English-language coverage of Capello in ten or twenty years time still relates overwhelmingly to his period as England Coach so it deserves a fair amount of space in spite of the fact that he won no trophies. What this article partly needs to acheive more balance is for the other periods of his career to be expanded. At the moment, I agree, it appears slightly lopsided. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 00:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with Adam4267. It's ridiculous that almost every game that Capello has managed England has been described. That section needs to be cut down by AT LEAST half. Azzurro2882 (talk) 06:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Quarter Finals?
[edit]The article currently states that England were knocked out of the Quarter Finals in World Cup 2010. This is not true. They were actually knocked out in the Last 16 where they lost 4-1 to Germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wphill (talk • contribs) 15:41, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, fixed, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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