Talk:Effects of Hurricane Floyd in New York

Effects of Hurricane Floyd in New York was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
April 22, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed
November 3, 2024	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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The article is at least a "C". I don't have time to look at the "B" Class criteria right now but I will soon if no one else does in the mean time. --Dil Hoom Hoom Kare 22:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated for GA in any case. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 13:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ham tech person 03:15, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will review in my free time. Ham tech person 03:15, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Look forward to receiving any suggestions. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 12:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Against Criteria

1. Pass

A) Prose is fine. Ham tech person 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

B) Well compliant with MoS guidelines Ham tech person 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2. Failed 2B

A) Includes a references section. Pass Ham tech person 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

B) Please source the statistics in the intro. all statistics must be sourced. Thus FAIL Ham tech person 03:07, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, lead material doesn't have to be sourced as per WP:LEAD^[1]; all meaningful information is already sourced in the main article. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:14, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, per WP:GA?, all statistics must be sourced.^[2] Also, statistics can be challenged, and WP:LEAD says that material that is likely to be challenged should be sourced. It also does not state that the may not be citations in the lead.^[1]Ham tech person 14:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and indeed all statistics are sourced. Lead sourcing is optional. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll call for a second opinion. Ham tech person 21:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SECOND OPINION: In my opinion, Julian is correct. As long as the statistics are cited in the body, there's no need to repeat them in the lead per WP:LEAD. I'd recommend

passing this article for GA, but I'll leave the final decision to you. –Grondemar 21:34, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Passed (with some WP:GA? related doubts) Ham tech person 02:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

C) WP:NOR Compliant.^[3] Pass

3. Pass

A) Way to stay focused on the main points. Pass Ham tech person 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

B) No unnecessary detail. Pass. Ham tech person 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

4. This article is more neutral than a pH 7 substance. Pass. Ham tech person 03:11, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5. Pass. Quite stable in fact. Ham tech person 03:11, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

6. Pass

A) licensing is fine. Ham tech person 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

B) Images are quite well kaptioned. Ham tech person 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Third Opinion

I'd also advise passing this. Information in the lead does not need references, as long it is cited later on in the article. See these featured articles with uncited statistics in their leads:

There are many others. I'd say if featured articles can get away with it, good articles definitely can. Torchiest (talk | contribs) 01:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I am trying to redirect this article following a merge implantation (see Talk: Hurricane Floyd) but I am unable to due to an edit filter. Can someone please implement the redirect both here and at Effects of Hurricane Floyd in New England? 2600:4808:610:7C01:C48:D4B0:E2A0:E549 (talk) 19:02, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. PhilKnight (talk) 19:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[LEAD-1] WP:LEAD

[CRITERIA-2] WP:GA?

[NOR-3] WP:NOR

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