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A fact from Ed Sullivan Theater appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 January 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Stephen Colbert initially balked at hosting The Late Show at the Ed Sullivan Theater (pictured), but called for the theater's restoration after learning about its neo-Gothic dome?

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CBS Lease?

There are no citations on the CBS leasing the building comments. I believed CBS owned the building until 1976 or so when it moved to the CBS Broadcast Center.Americasroof (talk) 18:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date When Seating Was Reduced

There are no citations on the date when the theatre was reduced in size. I believe I heard somewhere that the reduction had occurred during the Ed Sullivan days -- and there were only 400 in the audience during the famous Beatles concert! Americasroof (talk) 18:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism

In 2011 there was vandalism at the theater, so can it be on the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:4780:800:408C:E39F:6CD0:A9BD (talk) 17:50, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:LASTING, this would not be appropriate considering the depth of detail in the rest of the article, since the vandalism was minor. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:41, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:07, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ed Sullivan Theater

... that the Ed Sullivan Theater, a Broadway venue designed like a cathedral, later became a CBS studio and now hosts CBS's Late Show? Source: McFadden, Robert D. (February 22, 1993). "A Building With a History, From Bootleggers to Beatles". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that Arthur Hammerstein, who developed Hammerstein's Theatre as a memorial to his father Oscar, gave the theater up only three years after its opening? Source: "Hammerstein Has $5 Left of Millions; Producer Files Petition in Bankruptcy, Listing Total Liabilities at $1,649,136". The New York Times. March 27, 1931.
- ALT2: ... ~~that Arthur Hammerstein, who developed Hammerstein's Theatre as a memorial to his father Oscar, gave the theater up in 1930 with $5.77 to his name?~~ Source: "Hammerstein Has $5 Left of Millions; Producer Files Petition in Bankruptcy, Listing Total Liabilities at $1,649,136". The New York Times. March 27, 1931.
- ALT3: ... ~~that Arthur Hammerstein gave up Hammerstein's Theatre in 1930, only three years after its opening, with $5.77 to his name?~~ Source: "Hammerstein Has $5 Left of Millions; Producer Files Petition in Bankruptcy, Listing Total Liabilities at $1,649,136". The New York Times. March 27, 1931.
- ALT4: ... that the Ed Sullivan Theater, home to The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, was originally a temple of music on Broadway? Source: (1) Poniewozik, James (September 9, 2015). "Review: On 'Late Show' Premiere, Stephen Colbert Tries to Bring Big Back to Late Night". The New York Times (2) "Hammerstein to Build 15-Story Temple of Music: Acquires Site on Broadway at Fifty-third St. for Theater and Office Building Memorial to His Father". New York Herald Tribune. May 6, 1926. p. 14. Technically, it was a "Temple of Music". It is physically on Broadway but was once also a Broadway theater.
- ALT5: ... that Stephen Colbert initially balked at hosting The Late Show at the Ed Sullivan Theater, but he called for the theater's restoration after learning about its neo-Gothic dome? Source: Koblin, John (September 9, 2015). "Stephen Colbert's Shiny New Home on Broadway Reflects Its Past". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Karolína Huvarová
- Comment: more hooks pending

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:57, 13 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

as to alt0, alt1, alt4 or alt5. Newness requirement satisfied by GA promotion on Dec 13. Article is long enough, well sourced, neutral, and Earwig check doesn't show problems. QPQ requirement satisfied. Hooks are short enough and interesting and, with the exception of alts 2 and 3, accurate cited. The problem IMO with alts 2 and 3 is that the source indicates that Hammerstein had other assets to his name -- the $5.77 was listed as his only "immediate" asset. Image is OK (focus is more on Colbert's name in lights rather than the building itself) and has Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license. Cbl62 (talk) 02:55, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5 to T:DYK/P6

Photo of the dome?

Can anyone figure out how to add the photo requested template for specifically a photo of the dome, preferably from both inside and outsdide? It's discussed at length in this article. —valereee (talk) 23:32, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Valereee, coincidentally, I went to the theater recently. I was able to see the interior of the dome, but unfortunately I could not take pictures of it. Taking pictures inside is strictly prohibited (they warn you for one violation of the rule and throw you out for the second). I suppose that is why no freely licensed image exists. The exterior of the dome is under a flat roof, so basically this is what you see from the outside.

On the bright side, though, images from the theater's opening should come into the public domain next year. Once these become available, we can use them. – Epicgenius (talk) 04:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, cool that we'll have public domaine photos next year!

Huh, I wonder whether the prohibiting of photo/recording is to prevent people from recording the shows/selling their recordings, or to prevent distracting performers with gazillions of flashes, or whether it's because they sell images themselves? I wonder if the management would allow a couple of photos to be taken before a show started, if told what the images were for. Or if some usher or something would be able to take a photo of the dome before the audience enters. —valereee (talk) 16:02, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am fairly sure it's a combination of preventing recordings and also not distracting those on stage. I believe the management does allow taking pictures of the lobbies from when I was there; however, they do not allow pictures of any sort in the auditorium itself. I agree, though, that it doesn't hurt to inquire whether they'd allow a visitor to take a picture for Wikipedia purposes exclusively. If not, we can just wait until 2023 and let the issue sort itself out. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:40, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NY Daily News

@BlueboyLINY, I don't think we should be changing |work=New York Daily News in citation templates to |work=Daily News|location=New York. None of the other citations in the article currently use the |location= parameter, and we shouldn't be making an exception for this specific source, either.

Additionally, the Wikipedia article about the newspaper is at New York Daily News, which gives both "New York Daily News" and "Daily News" as acceptable names for that newspaper. Either variant is correct, and this doesn't need to be fixed. – Epicgenius (talk) 05:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]