Talk:East Kilbride and Strathaven

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voorts (talk/contributions) 01:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Correct Rcat tag

@Wbm1058: I used {{R from incorrect name}} because this is the incorrect name for the article title, since the article apparently needs disambiguation. What RCat would you use? voorts (talk/contributions) 19:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Voorts: Usual conventions suggest that East Kilbride and Strathaven (UK Parliament constituency) should be an {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} redirecting to East Kilbride and Strathaven, which is an unambiguous topic not requiring disambiguation. But Category:Proposed constituencies of the Parliament of the United Kingdom points to a local naming convention that requires disambiguation. I don't know quite what to make of this local convention that goes against the norm. {{R to required disambiguation}}? {{R to necessary disambiguation}}? {{R to disambiguation by convention}}? Would be interested in reading any discussions about this matter. – wbm1058 (talk) 20:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently a hyperspecific naming convention requires the use of "(UK Parliament constituency)", so I think {{R from incorrect name}} is correct. I'm going to pose the question of the appropriate category on the naming convention talk page. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK Parliament constituencies). – wbm1058 (talk) 21:39, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've posed the question of the appropriate category on the talk page and pinged PamD, who drafted the guideline, to see if she knows the answer. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just made this edit swapping out {{R from short name}} for {{R from less specific name}}. The reason I didn't retain {{R from short name}} is because it didn't seem to me that the title without its parenthetical qualifier should be considered a short name of the fully-qualified title, due to the following:

the actual title minus the qualifier is the same in both instances; and
this doesn't seem (to me) to be a case where the fully-qualified title would also be used generally to refer to the subject of the article itself^[a] - (UK parliamentary constituency) is (in my mind) only a descriptor, not an extension of the article subject's name itself.

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 22:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC) ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 22:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @A smart kitten. I think we had come to a consensus that that was the most appropriate option; I'm not sure why it wasn't implemented. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

^ (unlike titles such as Tallahassee and Tallahassee, Florida; where one is more qualified than the other, and where both titles could be used generally even when no disambiguation is required)

[1] (unlike titles such as Tallahassee and Tallahassee, Florida; where one is more qualified than the other, and where both titles could be used generally even when no disambiguation is required)

[a]