Talk:Double tap

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Start Class, same as below. Although good article, not yet a B class. Dep. Garcia ( Talk | Help Desk | Complaints ) 11:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Citations needed for double tap body trauma

For what? It seems like common sense that two bullet holes in your chest will hurt. If you need citation for this fact, feel free to demonstrate the wound on yourself for verification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cockrobin (talk • contribs) 16:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Remove the Firearms Stub template

This article fully explains the concept of double-tapping, so why is it still a stub? -- Asdquefty 21:00, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

i agree with the above person, and as apparently nothing has happened since 2005, I have removed the template - 71.144.87.83 20:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

movie

perhaps a mention of this movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258489/), in which double tap is featured prominently, is motivated?

Double tap really either needs a disambiguation page or a line at the top of each article referring to the other since both Double tap and Double Tap are articles. It would be difficult for a person searching within wikipedia to determine how to get from one article to the other. In view of this I'm going to add a line to each one. Hopefully someone who knows how to do the disambiguation page will add it. 04:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

References?

No references here at all, and some of the information is highly questionable. The technique of two rapid shots to the same point of aim (which is the essence of a double tap) was taught by Applegate, so my guess is that it dates back to at least the 1930s, to Fairbairn's time in the Shanghai police. The article should also mention "the hammer" and "controlled pairs", which are other names for/variations on the same theme. (see here and here for discussions on the technique(s)). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fluzwup (talk • contribs) 19:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

It is not impossible that DT was picked up by Beckwith from when he served with the S.A.S. whose history is rather illustrious and experience is built upon best practices from all armed forces and enemies they may encounter. Lindus 20:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Is anyone else suspicious of the SAS technique mentioned here? I'm no expert, but it seems to me that to place a bullet in the neck, and then the *eye* of a moving target who is probably firing back at you, requires more than supreme marksmanship, it requires superpowers? Even if you hit the neck, how can you be sure that the spinal chord will be hit? If you are that accurate a shooter, why not just go for the head and blow out the brains? The claim that somehow this stops messages travelling down the spinal chord to the gun-hand seems very odd to me. I thought the reason for shooting two shots into the center of mass, was precisely the great difficulty involved in hitting smaller targets like the head? I know the SAS are highly trained, but this claimed technique seems a little unlikely to me?

Metacosm (talk) 15:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Thru glass

   The term was used in the Flashpoint season-3 episode (#6), "Jumping at Shadows", where it seemed clear that the purpose was to break the side-window glass in a stationary inter-city bus with one round, and fire the second along the same, but consequently now more reliable trajectory, for a fatal head-shot. Others will be able to write about this, and fit it in, better than i.
--Jerzy•t 06:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

"Famous Double Taps" ?

I don't think we need such a section and am removing it for now. If you don't agree, put it back, but if there is only gonna be Osama in this list, it's probably not gonna last long. 217.93.199.37 (talk) 23:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

It was put back up however, I also removed it for two reasons. At this point we do not know the exact circumstances regarding Osama Bin Laden's death as the government has not released all details regarding it. Additionally, the person who had added Osama's death and attributed it to a double tap had put the wrong date down, which leads me to believe that it is a speculative post, rather than one based in fact.-Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.165.65 (talk) 04:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I removed Osama bin Ladin as it was not a "double tap" per any of the definitions given in the article. OBL was hit by two shots from two different people, apparently at or near the same time. It was not a not a reacquired target from one shooter nor an "insurance round" from a later shooter. --Marc Kupper|talk 19:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd section blanked the History section and then shortly afterwards undid this (restoring the section) as an editor contacted me about that the number of shooters was in dispute meaning it's possible the Osama's death was a double-tap per how it's described in this article. Today an IP editor undid my undo (of myself), which blanked the section again. I undid that as it's not clear if their intent was to blank the section or that they thought I was blanking. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Marc, I'm the IP-editor who brought up the subject of removing this, then called 'Famous Double Taps', section. I'm also the one who reverted your last revert. I did so, not because I don't believe OBL wasn't killed by a double tap, but because I thought this section, as it is right now, is irrelevant. Maybe if we (well someone) could elaborate on the fact of special units using the double tap, i.e. "Navy Seals have been trained to use..., in the case of OBLs assassination..." or something like that, it would contribute more to the article. I'm totally not qualified to do that and I'm not gonna revert this now, but that's just my two cents. Regards 217.93.174.98 (talk) 01:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Alternate meaning

A double tap, as commonly understood is not the only definition for the term. Some combat units use the term to refer to an insurance round, administered after the target has been neutralized. As in he's down, immobilized and unconscious, but just to be sure, here's the 'double tap'. An action which is in clear violation of the Geneva Convention and sure to result in jail time should it be observed and included in an after action report.

That's why a lot of unit SOP dictates that you leave somebody on the front side of the objective until it's been taken. Then, on his first trip across, he's free to shoot anybody he wants without it being the illegal 'double tap'. This ensures you don't land anybody in the pokey which is really bad for the moral of your typical 11b.

That definition probably has some place on the front page of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.152.76.122 (talk) 18:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Agree...if this term is used...the Soldier will be punished under the Geneva Convention... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.27.64.242 (talk) 15:39, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

"Syrian government is using double tap strikes against hospitals and other medical targets."

Wikipedia calls it reliable academic "sourcing" and "documentation" to use one article by one questionably-reliable tabloid newspaper and its reporter, Martin Chulov [a Zionist Jew, thus with an Israeli-biased agenda?], in which he only mentions ONE anecdotal accusation that "They wait and see where we’re driving and they bomb us"? Jesus Christ! How did this ever get past the wonderful Wikipedia editors and censors (who are never, ever politically-motivated or biased, right)?! They have never allowed me to post anything like that, that is clearly undocumented by normal academic standards (and I wouldn't do so, anyway).Starhistory22 (talk) 22:19, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Contradiction

The introduction says the 2nd shot is fired without reacquiring a 2nd sight picture. The Technique section says the shooter reacquires a sight picture quickly enough that, to an observer, it looks as if the shooter had simply fired two shots in rapid succession. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8300:65D0:A4C6:A496:A3DC:116A (talk) 17:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Splitting off Double tap strike?

Per WP:CONTENTSPLIT I think that the section on missile/IED attacks could be turned into a separate article. It will be a short article, but I think it is notable due to the media coverage. Suggested title: Double tap attack. Sjö (talk) 08:57, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

List of double tap strikes

• Plaça de Sant Felip Neri
• Warrenpoint ambush
• Beit Lid suicide bombing
• Sanaa funeral airstrike
• Hroza missile attack

To be completed. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

There is now a dedicated article at Double tap strike, do not reply here. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 15:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)