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Requested move 13 March 2019

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Calidum 01:35, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dive Bar Tour → Bud Light × Lady Gaga Dive Bar Tour – I would suggest that we rename the article to "Bud Light × Lady Gaga Dive Bar Tour", because Bud Light teamed up with other performers, too, including Post Malone and G-Eazy, and all of heir shows were likewise called Dive Bar Tour/Bud Light Dive Bar Tour. Many sources referred to the concert series as Bud Light x Lady Gaga Dive Bar Tour or Bud Light + Lady Gaga Dive Bar Tour. Links: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. Sricsi (talk) 22:55, 13 March 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 22:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Commenting only on the special character proposed - per MOS:TMRULES it should be avoided. --Gonnym (talk) 13:05, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - the logo stylization, sponsor, and performer in the title. Current title is concise and accurate enough because the article should be broadened in scope to incorporate the other performers. This is not a Lady Gaga tour - its a Bud Light-sponsored tour with stops that involved any of a number of performers. -- Netoholic @ 18:34, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - WP:PRIMARYTOPIC applies as well as WP:COMMONNAME. If there are other tour articles created for other artists then would have suggested renaming to Dive Bar Tour (Lady Gaga concert). Press releases are not generally considered reliable third party sources for naming. Sponsors regularly add their logo/name on tour posters and announcements, that does not make them applicable or common enough to add in the title. We have a number of {{Super Bowl halftime shows}} created, most of them sponsored by Pepsi and noted as such in the press releases or advertisements. That does not mean we would start calling them as Pepsi Super Bowl XXX halftime show. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 13:51, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, per CommonName. If there are multiple articles called Dive Bar Tour, then I suggest disambiguating by artist name, such as Dive Bar Tour (Lady Gaga), etc. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:12, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would not mind renaming the article to something other than what I suggested, but in its current form it is too ambiguous. --Sricsi (talk) 15:33, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sricsi, But there are not yet other articles called Dive Bar Tour to disambiguate. No disambiguation needed until disambiguation is needed. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:42, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So what do you suggest? Leave it as it is? It's quite misleading, since the Dive Bar Tour is not exclusively a Lady Gaga tour. --Sricsi (talk) 07:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Unless another artist's Dive Bar Tour article is created, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC applies and this is the name that we are stuck with. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 18:24, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
+1. Yes, leave as is until disambiguation is needed. Then, disambiguate by artist name. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is not about a Lady Gaga tour - it is about a Bud Light-sponsored tour in which Lady Gaga and other artists have participated. Edit the article to reflect that. -- Netoholic @ 00:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But the current article is about the Lady Gaga tour which is what we are discussing. That's where the DAB point is coming from. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 13:37, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 3 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 23:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dive Bar Tour → Dive Bar Tour (Lady Gaga) – There are plenty other artists with a promotional concert series named Dive Bar Tour, including Post Malone, G-Eazy, and Garth Brooks. The latter even has its own article, similarly titled as Dive Bar Tour (Garth Brooks). I suggest we differentiate these by the name of the performer. --Sricsi (talk) 13:04, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: GagaNutella (talk · contribs) 17:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review! :) I’ve addressed all your notes. Sricsi (talk) 09:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox/Lead

Add a comma after previous tours

Background and development

Gaga aimed to be close enough to her audience so that she can look into their eyes while performing, → Gaga aimed to be close enough to her audience to be able to look into their eyes while performing,
The "Prior the tour" part, change will for would

Concert synopsis

Remove the comma after sat down
who served as co-executive producer for Joanne. → who served as Joanne's co-executive producer.
telling the audience how they wrote the following song "Grigio Girls" together, which Gaga → telling the public how they wrote the following song, "Grigio Girls", together,
and was present in the audience. → and was present there.
"Million Reasons" and "Just Another Day" was performed → "Million Reasons" and "Just Another Day" were performed
where she reprised "Joanne" and performed → where she reprised "Joanne" and sang
Gaga debuted new song → Gaga debuted the new song
the track "Million Reasons", and performed the song. → the track "Million Reasons" and performed it.
she sang "Angel Down", and changed up the lyrics to reference → she sang "Angel Down" and changed its lyrics to reference
Talking about her family led to a performance of the track "Joanne". → Talking about her family led to a performance of "Joanne".
Before performing the final song, → Before singing the final song,
Remove the comma after crowd-surfed

Critical reception

and while she believed that → while believing that

Shows

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References

Copy violation score looks good at 37.9%
Ref 20: add |url-access= parameter

Final comments and verdict

I think this is it. On hold until all of the issues are fixed.

✓ Pass now. GagaNutella^talk 13:10, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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