Talk:Dinnington, South Yorkshire

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Miners Welfare and CISWO

The article suggests that CISWO provided the land for the Miners Welfare. This is incorrect as CISWO didn't exist until 1952. The land was purchased by the Miners themselves. This is what led to the controversy of CISWO claiming ownership. Please correct the article. 92.7.104.184 (talk) 18:53, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you supply references to support this? Keith D (talk) 23:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article at http://num.org.uk/home/welfare/ provides an outline of the history of CISWO - it did not exist until 1952.

As to claims about ownership of mining rec land, that is also not correct. Land for mining rec grounds was either (a) owned by and rented from the industry, or (b) bought with welfare fund money and settled on charitable trust. The welfare fund money was from levies on coal production and mineral royalties - it wasn't paid for by miners themselves. In the 1990s, when the NCB was abolished, the recs they owned were given to CISWO. CISWO have also taken over some of the charity grounds (and that might include Dinnington) but those transfers were sanctioned by the Charity Commission in accordance with charity law. 80.0.24.82 (talk) 12:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Further to the above, people get confused with this because charity law was unusual when it came to mining rec grounds. The provision of rec grounds for workers in a particular industry is not a valid charitable purpose, but there was legislation to the effect that miners welfare recreation ground trusts were to be treated as if they were charities, provided they were paid for out the welfare fund. Hence some grounds are held on charitable trust and are (because of various later legislative changes) for the benefit of the general public, whereas the ones that were rented from the industry are just private land, many now owned by CISWO. 86.6.227.251 (talk) 13:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]