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Q: There are many "rules" associated with this page. Why?

A: Recent deaths is one of the most-viewed articles in Wikipedia. Deaths in 2023 was one of the most-read Wikipedia articles in 2023, with over 48 million views.[1] It is important that such a high-profile article have factual information presented in a consistent format.

Q: Why are there redlinks or redirects (deceased subject with no Wikipedia article) listed in the article?

A: Many notable people die before a Wikipedia article is written about them. The regular editors of this page have agreed that a death notice without an English-language article may remain for one month after the death, so that an article may develop. If there is no article after one month, then the death notice is removed from the list.

Q: Why is each death sourced by a simple citation only?

A: Each month, over 1000 deaths are reported. If the "cite news" template were used in each entry, the page would be slower to load as each instance of the template is rendered. Editors have decided by consensus to use a simpler cite in the form <ref>[url, title]</ref>.

Q: Why are dead animals sometimes listed in the article?

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A: Material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced is removed immediately and without waiting for discussion (WP:BLP). Blogs and social media sites are generally considered to be unreliable. Every death listed must be supported by a reference from a reliable, independent source.

Q: A new month started five days ago. Why are deaths in the old month still appearing here?

A: It takes some time for deaths to be reported in the media and published here. Editors have agreed to keep the old month listed in the article for seven days after the new month begins. After that time, the "old" deaths are transferred to the article Deaths in <old month name>.

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This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 44 times. The weeks in which this happened:

December 31, 2023 to January 6, 2024 (11th)
January 7 to 13, 2024 (9th)
January 14 to 20, 2024 (5th)
January 21 to 27, 2024 (10th)
January 28 to February 3, 2024 (9th)
February 4 to 10, 2024 (7th)
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September 29 to October 5, 2024 (7th)
October 6 to 12, 2024 (8th)
October 13 to 19, 2024 (8th)
October 20 to 26, 2024 (6th)
October 27 to November 2, 2024 (9th)

Deaths needing proper citation

Via thorough browsing of the 2024 deaths category, I’ve found the following are marked as deceased and needing of proper citation. Rusted AutoParts 13:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 2 – Larry Sherrer, 74, American football player (Montreal Alouettes, BC Lions) and ophthalmologist (sourced on X)
January 22 – János Toldi, 96, Hungarian Olympic sprint canoer (sourced on Facebook)
January 25 – Rick France, 85, British speedway rider (sourced on Facebook)
February – Trefor Goronwy, 63, English musician (This Heat) (sourced on Facebook)
February 2 – Peter Golfinopoulos, 95–96, American artist (sourced on Instagram)
April 7 – John Giles, 97, British Olympic shot putter (no source; IP editor proclaiming Giles was their father edited his page to indicate death)
April 14 – Blackie Wangerin, 89, American racecar driver (sourced on Facebook)
June 2 – Israel Even-Zahav, 77, Israeli Paralympic athlete (sourced on Facebook)
June 7 – Dolores Cambridge, 87, Australian opera soprano (sourced on Vimeo video link of funeral)
June 27 – Shaun Casey, 70, American model (sourced on Instagram and Facebook)
September 11 – Myron Stankiewicz, 88, Canadian ice hockey player (sourced on his sister-in-law's family tree on Ancestry)
October 4 – Peter Cummins, 93, Australian actor (sourced on Facebook here)
October 14 – John Fraser Hart, 100, American geographer
October 29 – Jaromír E. Brabenec, 90, Czech graphic designer and sculptor (sourced on Facebook here)
November 5 – Dave Stephens, 95, Australian Olympic runner (sourced on Facebook here)

Copyedit time?

A little honesty is called for in the initial statement of basic format given the longstanding practice of deleting the "country of citizenship at birth" if it is "not a current citizenship" even if the successor state had never existed when the subject was born.

Aaron Kaufman's producer credits are piped to themselves...what's the point to that?

If ~~WP:PEER~~ WP:PEERS applies to Lord Hanningfield why is it not applied to the Marquess of Lothian who died on October 1st?..."Ancram" wasn't even his actual family name (of which family he eventually became Chief of the Name) and in Parliament the Lothian title was eventually used.71.105.190.91 (talk) 05:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware of the practice described in your first sentence. If someone was born in East Germany then migrated to the USA, we should describe them as "East German-born American", not "German-born American". If they were born in East Germany then remained in Germany after the reunification, I'm happy with just "German ..." rather than the convoluted "East German-born German".

Link to WP:PEERS corrected, but I haven't addressed the Lothian issue.

Kaufman

Fixed. 06:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I was thinking more of Soviet/Czechoslovak/Yugoslav people born into a world that had never seen a particular Czech or Bosnian etc. state being retrospectively assigned to a "birth" nationality rather than the one in which they may have held office or played on national sports teams (since we delete those birth nationalities why say that all birth nationalities are equally part of the format?...my query was phrased as in "declare the actual policy" rather than "change the policy").

The link I meant (cribbed from the edit history relating to Lord Hanningfield) was WP:PEERS about alphabetization (I acknowledge the North/Eden exception cited there but I think that despite the article title Lord Lothian was being referred to more by his title after the need for the pseudonym had ended and press coverage was moving to a "that's what we used to call him" mode on "Michael Ancram"...and going to the usual practice is best for the historical record.

If you were making a semi-serious allusion to the West Lothian question relating to the "Midlothian question" applying to the still-recently-deceased Earl of Rosebery the Rosebery title was clearly primary and the Midlothian title did not need to be referenced in his case.71.105.190.91 (talk) 10:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I note that Lord Lothian's entry has now been hived off to Deaths in October 2024 without this being addressed.71.105.190.91 (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to open up a specific discussion there, because this topic is a general one and will be archived at the end of November. Wylie pedia @ 05:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peanut

The squirrel, Peanut, died on November 1. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 06:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 30th -

Done, thanks. (A deletion discussion concerning Peanut's article is currently snowing as Keep.) Ref ^(chew)(do) 08:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. His article says "date of death = November 1" in the InfoBox. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 15:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. And multiple editors at the deletion discussion seem unwilling to accept the number of Keep votes as a snowfall, it seems. Ref ^(chew)(do) 20:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yours is not necessarily a mistake. His article says "date of death = November 1" in the InfoBox. At the same time, the lead of the article says: "On October 30, 2024, he was seized from his owners' home by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and killed ...". So, I am not sure what date is correct. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 07:19, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per USA Today, "Two days after he was seized from his home in New York, Peanut the Squirrel has been euthanized."[2] That confirms DOD as 1 November. Article lead updated for clarity. WWGB (talk) 07:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a raging debate at Talk:Peanut (squirrel)#"Euthanasia" over the wording of his cause of death. We should follow any decision made there. WWGB (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio de Orleans e Bragança

All the sources call him Antonio de Orleans e Bragança. Removing his name on the basis that it isn't the name used by sources makes no sense whatever. In addition, restoring a red link rather than no link on the basis that 'any additions should be linked' is similarly illogical. The source I added[3] confirms the name and confirms that the title is self-adopted. Brazil is a republic. It doesn't have an imperial family. DrKay (talk) 21:16, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All entries must have a link for the purpose of future article creation. Redlinks that are presumed to be non-notable (in this case because of a previous AfD discussion) are removed from the list but never de-linked. Renewal6 (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]