Talk:Dadra and Nagar Haveli
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The article on Oklahoma state of United States is a featured article. It has a well laid structure. Following the same pattern will make this article better. Please help me expand this article based on that structure. I am reorganising the article so that it's readability is improved. 11:36, 15 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AJ.iitm (talk • contribs)
Stub?
[edit]Is this still a stub? — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 07:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
EDUCATION & Shri Sanjibhai Rupjibhai Memorial Trust.
[edit]Ours is self financed charitable Trust, which has a mission to promote education towards excellence and education for all by Gradually starting the non-technical, technical. medical and managerial courses in order to create a self dependant and self sufficient society. It is the dream of our Hon’ble Chairman Shri. Mohan S. Delkar (M.P.) U.T. of Dadra and Nagar Haveli to create a world of education where every deserving student can be provided with the opportunity to learn upto her/his will…
Shri Sanjibhai Rupjibhai Memorial Trust has already started SSR College of Arts, Commerce & Science, Saily, Silvassa U.T. of Dadra and Nagar Haveli, in the academic year 2006-2007 under the affiliation of University of Pune. This is the only college in India that is outside Maharashtra and still affiliated to University of Pune. Trust plans to start SSR College of Pharmacy and SSR College of Education in this academic year that is 2007-2008. The facilities that the Trust is providing and plans to provide further are one of the best of its kind.......
link title —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Onlinerajesh (talk • contribs) 14:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC).
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Prime Minister
[edit]The article states that Mr. Badlani was made the Prime Minister for a day so that he could act as a Head of State. However, under international law, a Prime Minster is not a Head of State, but a Head of Government. NelsonLB (talk) 02:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Concerns about the Freedom movement section
[edit]While I commend this expansion[1] of history section(it could be split into a sepearte article). I could not help but notice that it overplays the role played by the RSS. The reason for my concern is this article from Prabhakar Sinari (one of the leaders of the movement); in 2003 which says that the role of the RSS in liberating D&NH was "at best, marginal". --Deepak D'Souza 04:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Deepak,
I respect your views. I agree with you that the 'Liberation of D & N' itself can be a separate article. But I disagree with you on the role of organizations. I don't think any organisation's role is being overplayed. It covers the role of all players from a neutral source. But since you have quoted an article written by Prabhakar Sinari himself, let us consider the following.
"Desai was against the RSS organisation as well, he took the risk of bringing in the Sangh volunteers and successfully managed to camouflage their identity from Mr. Nagarwala till the liberation of Silvassa."
— page 51, Dadra and Nagar Haveli: past and the present, by P S Lele
It is clear that RSS volunteers were told to hide their identities by leaders like Appasaheb Karmalkar and Jayanti Bhai Desai, so that their identities do not irk the Indian authorities especially DIG of Special Reserve Police, Mr Nagarwalla. But the identities would have become amply clear by the time they captured Silvassa. Consider this
"By this time, Mr. Nagarwala also came to know about the identity of the RSS workers on the scene. He accepted it as a lesser evil."
— page 56, Dadra and Nagar Haveli: past and the present, by P S Lele
I am not sure who all knew explicitly of the identity of the volunteers. Atleast a few in the Azad Gomatak Dal were aware of that. Mr. Mohan Ranade, one of the leaders of Azad Gomantak Dal (the same group to which Mr Prabhakar Sinari belongs), who was part of the Dadra Nagar Haveli liberation and after that faced solitary confinement in Portugal prison for 14 years, has the following to say about this
"Almost all the volunteers brought by Sudhir Phadke, Rajabhau Wakankar and Nana belonged to Rastriya Swayam Sevak Sangh. Their number now rose to one hundred. We were only twenty-five who had gone from Goa. Sudhir Phadke and others could have done the job all by themselves without taking our organization’s name or our help. But, the political exigencies were not permitting them to do so. After having some breakfast we grabbed our weapons and started to march in the direction of Silvassa. There was a feeling of joy in the air."
— page 40, Struggle Unfinished, Mohan Ranade
Clearly, the RSS volunteers had more than a "marginal role" as you claim. Going by Mr Mohan Ranade, whatever has been said in the article actually underplays the role of RSS and not overplays it. So was Mr Prabhakar Sinari unaware of the identities of the RSS volunteers? Was he kept in dark by his own comarades in the Azad Gomantak Dal? Don't know, Can't say.
Secondly, Mr Prabhakar Sinari's basis of argument is Indian Government's affidavit saying no Indian nationals were involved. We must understand that the affidavit was India's official line. Officially Indian authorities would also deny that DIG of SRP Nagarwalla had any role to play in the liberation. Mr Sinari, in his enthusiasm, himself contradicts this when he says that few volunteers of the RSS were with them. One of propositions can be true; RSS volunteers from Pune were not there at all or few of them were there - Both can't be true at the same time.
With due respects to Mr Prabhakar Sinari, and acknowledging his role too, his blanket 'I did it all' statement, where he does not even mention the role of other allies like the NMO, leave alone the RSS, does not hold much water. Especially when he is contradicted substantially by his own comrades and also by himself. I think we should go by neutral sources.
We can divide the page as you have suggested and expand them both further with more sources. ---nihar (talk) 05:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Independent country
[edit]Was independence recognized by Portugal or any other country in 1954? Goustien (talk) 20:22, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Not by Portugal until 1975. I doubt it was recognised as a country by any other, not come across any sources so far. But India did not annex it till it invaded the other Portuguese colonies in 1961. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 09:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
change the map
[edit]Please change the map of India depicted in this article. The map depicts Jammu & Kashmir and Arunachal Pradesh as not parts of India. This is an insult to the whole Indians. Unless you change it, Wikipedia may face a ban in the country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.201.64.195 (talk) 10:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Liberation
[edit]I didn't edit the article because there needs to be discussion before this change, but in an encyclopedia there needs to be neutrality, controversial words like "liberation" (normaly used from Indian point of view) or "invasion" (normaly used from Portuguese point of view) should be mellowed into non-emotional terms for an unadulterated encyclopedic experience. This also seems to be the case in Goa, Daman and Diu articles, so it is a larger issue. What do others here think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FernãoMendesPinto (talk • contribs) 23:30, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]The article Portuguese links with Dadrá e Nagar-Aveli should be merged into this article. Mathglot (talk) 07:15, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Merge Same topics. Can have seperate History article if needed.--Nizil (talk) 05:32, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 19:55, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
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Page should be for the Former UT not District
[edit]This page should be made as a page for the Former union territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli and another page should be created for the new Deadra and Nagar Haveli district. Karnatakapolatics (talk) 03:22, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Disagree strongly for several reasons - 1, At present there is both a union territory and a district known as Dadra and Nagar Haveli which are coterminous. The changes will abolish the union territory but will not affect the existing district. 2, The geography, culture, demographics, education etc sections of the article are not affected by the abolition of the union territory as they also describe the coterminous district. 3, The page describes the history of the area which predates the creation of the union territory. 4, The only changes needed to the article are to the section about the administration where a paragraph can be added to explain that the area was a union territory and coterminous district up to 26 Jan 2020 and then only a district thereafter. Cordyceps-Zombie (talk) 08:13, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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Just surfing thru Wikipedia. Describing the Warli as a "non-Aryan" people seemed a bit Hitleresque to me although I appreciate the word has a meaning relating to Indo-European origins. According to elsewhere in Wikipedia, the Warli are Indo-European and thereby Aryan if one wishes to use that word. I will edit this. Other parts, for example Koknas "are better cultivators than the Warlis" are opinion and should probably be reviewed.
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