Talk:Cora Cross

Sources

• [1] - This has some reception
• [2] - RecpetionRain the 1 02:31, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Mitchell on her fans, great source — M.Mario (T/C) 13:57, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cora Cross/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TBrandley (talk · contribs) 00:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Issues:

• Lede: May expand into more paragraphs Done
• Storylines: 2011-. Second and third paragraph needs a bunch of references. Both are completely unsourced
• Character creation: Casting. Link executive producer Done
• Development: Digital Spy should be in italics Done

My main problem for the article is sources for the Storylines area. So, I'm going to put the article on hold for a few days. TBrandley 00:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Comment. Storylines don't necessarily need sourcing as the show is the source. Digital Spy is not a newspaper or magazine, so does not need italicising. Is this the complete review? There do appear to be a few more problems with the article that need sorting. For instance the word "said" is used quite often throughout (particularly in reception), so a few different synonyms to mix it up would be good. - JuneGloom Talk 01:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree with June, is this the whole review? The storyline development section just seems to be a rehash of the storyline section. — M.Mario (T/C) 17:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I've addressed your problems minus the storylines as per comments above. George^Ping! 18:41, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Bump!! Have you forgotten about poor old Cora? George^Ping! 13:51, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Comments given that this has stagnated...

• Should be Press Association instead of The Press Assocation, and it doesn't need to be italicised – isn't a newspaper/work, just a news agency. Done.
• "During the 1960s, she dated a young sailor who broke her heart and their relationship resulted in a pregnancy when she was only 18 but she never told the sailor, who was the father of her child" reads long and could easily be split into two. Done
• "Cora then attends Tanya's wedding, and finds it amusing that Jane Beale (Laurie Brett) has kissed Greg the night before as Jane said he was kind to her when she was crying about a fight she had with Tanya when Tanya thought Jane was trying to get close to Greg." Tanya is repeated threefold. This again can be split into two sentences.  Done
• "Sasha Dixon (Rebecca Sanneh) then smashes the shop window and makes her do shifts in the shop to pay for the damage." → "Having smashed Cora's shop window, Sasha Dixon (Rebecca Sanneh) is made to do shifts in the shop to pay for the damage" Done
• Nothing on Sasha and Cora swindling that funeral director as a means of increasing shop sales? A sentence on it would be fine. Done
• Can't see the "tough as old boots" and "cross her at your peril" quotes from the BBC website.

This could do with double checking for sourcing and prose moreover needs attention. Unfortunately I do not have the time to do either, but addressing the comments above would be a start I guess. Lemonade51 (talk) 01:19, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

These quotes were there a few months back but the EastEnders website was revamped in May and most character descriptions were changed.George^Ping! 11:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Once those above issues have been addressed, I will be happy to pass this nomination. Please fix those concerns ASAP; thanks. TBrandley 03:51, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Query: what's left to do? It looks like George has at least responded to all the issues; whether this solves the problems I have no idea... BlueMoonset (talk) 02:36, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I should pass this. Anything else? TBrandley 02:43, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Not from me: I haven't actually looked at the article, but this is on the list of long-running GAN reviews, so it seemed appropriate to see whether it needed a nudge. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Per above, at this point this should now be passed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 05:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Yep, look good. Pass. TBrandley 14:57, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

2015 exit - WP:OR?

Surely, listing her as a 'past' character is WP:OR? There has been no announcement, just a change to the EE web site, which may be a mistake or simply designed to mislead. Stephenb (Talk) 17:17, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

No announcement is strange and it seems odd that she would be gone without her relationship with Gavin being explored - this was teased in an episode a while ago when she seemingly recognised him. It could be to mislead, but it doesn't make sense. Cora isn't credited in any episodes up to 7 January 2016. At the moment, the BBC says she's left so I think we have to go with what they said. AnemoneProjectors 00:13, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Phew, she's returning! AnemoneProjectors 00:34, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, that was my point: the BBC didn't say she had left. Editors here inferred it from a web site page move, which isn't the same thing at all and was, IMO, WP:OR. More care needed if this happens again, we need reliable sources, not incorrectly inferring stuff. Stephenb (Talk) 11:23, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

It wasn't just that the page had moved, but they published a final appearance date for her, which actually means she has left. So not original research at all. I believe it was right to say she had left until we had heard otherwise. AnemoneProjectors 11:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Actually "Last appearance", which doesn't necessarily mean "final". And, in fact, didn't! I don't believe it was right to say she had left until we heard confirmation from a reliable source - this page clearly wasn't such a source! Stephenb (Talk) 12:15, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

"Last appearance" doesn't mean "latest", it means "the character left on this date". And it wasn't a mistake or to mislead. It was a true fact. But it doesn't matter now. AnemoneProjectors 13:09, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

2017–

Does anyone know if Cora will appear again or if she just came back for those 2 episodes- I know this isn't a forum but why does Sean O'Connor bring characters back for a couple of episodes, set up a great storyline and then return to the crap ones and the good ones never go anywhere. Aacfsftw (talk) 14:06, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Without sounding negative, you are spot on. This isn't a forum and we rely on facts. Cora is only appearing in two episodes as far as we are concerned until more news surfaces. Soaper1234 - talk 20:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

She came to Albert Square after hearing Max was back, so it does look like she will return. Maybe we should assume the 1 year rule until we know she's back for good? — anemoneprojectors 10:39, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

I think we may be better off waiting until she possibly appears again. She was only confirmed for two episodes and nothing has so far pointed to another return. Perhaps if she returns for another stint, the one year rule could be applied. Soaper1234 - talk 14:58, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Well there is no confirmation she'll be back but the 1-year rule is applied where it's likely and he return to Albert Square when she heard about Max makes me think it's likely. Sadly there's no confirmation of anything these days with the lack of online credits, which still hasn't stopped being really annoying. I hope the next EP brings them back. — anemoneprojectors 01:08, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

With recent contributions on this page and List of EastEnders characters, I was hoping to clarify if we are definitely applying the one-year rule? I still feel a two-episode guest stint isn't enough to enable the rule, but if you feel we are better applying it, I suppose we should. Soaper1234 - talk 13:16, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

I didn't see it as a guest stint but the start of her return since it was implied she would appear again because of the Max thing. Seems likely she would appear and EE don't confirm anything these days. If we're not in agreement we need more input. Also in this case I see less harm in applying the 1 year rule than not, unlike with characters such as Pam or Matthew, where it doesn't seem as likely they will appear again. — anemoneprojectors 14:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Where was it ever said/confirmed that Cora's return was just for 2 episodes? AFAIK that info was only posted on a forum by a user who said they had spoken to Ann Mitchell on Twitter. The BBC didn't make a statement about Cora's return. Paparazzi pictures emerged of Ann filming with Diane Parish confirming she would be back. Then she appeared in the usual course of publicity e.g. official spoilers/stills. Nothing has been confirmed re the length of her return. If her return had been just the food bank scenes with Denise then I would say it should be judged on if she makes another appearance but as they made a specific point of her taking an interest in Max and coming to Walford to spy on him then I would say it's highly likely we'll be seeing her again. In fact Abi has a birthday party coming up don't be surprised if she makes another appearance then. ;) As far as Pam is concerned I agree that one is up in the air since she left the show and there was nothing in her recent guest appearance to suggest she'll be back again. As it happens a reliable poster on WW has said she will be making another appearance but I appreciate that this cannot be used as a source on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.168.9 (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

In response to both users, you make good points and I can understand why you would prefer to add the one-year rule. Therefore, I am changing my view to applying the one-year rule. Soaper1234 - talk 15:21, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

This week's Soaplife mentions Cora and Max in their "what next?" page at the back, saying she could wreck his plans, etc, implying that she will appear, possibly in July. — anemoneprojectors 08:35, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Ah brilliant, good stuff. At least we can now confirm more appearances. Soaper1234 - talk 10:29, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Well they didn't say she would appear, but I don't know why they would mention it if she wasn't going to. — anemoneprojectors 19:40, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

John Yorke

As she is not a regular character should John Yorke be added as a second introducer for 2017, and did anyone else get a feeling that Cora has returned for good. Aacfsftw (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

She was still under the one-year rule so it should probably be just left with O'Connor. Soaper1234 - talk1 21:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)