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notability

Is McCandless worthy of actually having his own wikipedia page under the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people) guidelines? What is it McCandless actually DID in his short life that warrants a page? It seems all his 'accomplishments' were posthumous, and based more on mystique and myth-building than anything.Robbmonster (talk) 04:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC) I agree. Just another winner of a Darwin award. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.17.101.90 (talk) 21:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC) I disagree; the main point of the guidelines that Robbmonster posted is that someone can be notable if they have independent secondary sources about them, and McCandless has many of those, plus a movie about him. I think him having a page is completely reasonable. BobsFullBogs (talk) 21:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the subject didn't actually DO anything, which reading McCandless' Wiki page certainly demonstrates he didn't? Does notability come from one's acomplishments, or posthumous myth-building? Does the fact books are written and a movie made about them actually MAKE someone notable? Or is McCandless only notable BECAUSE books were written and a movie made about him? Chicken or the egg.Robbmonster (talk) 07:08, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this person isn't notable. 2 people died trying to hike to the bus this guy died in. Where are their wikipedia pages? 198.48.172.178 (talk) 07:07, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plenty of idiots have books written about them, that makes them notable. Especially if it's made into a major film. Sean Penn bet the public were interested in Chris. Millions of dollars and some decent critic ratings say he's right. What did Mickey Mouse ever do with his life?

84.65.94.92 (talk) 16:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good answer, IP84. Yeah, being "in the papers" (secondary sources) is the definition. The secondary sources themselves do need to be included (inline, etc.), and plenty of them are indeed included here already. A cult growing up around something adds to its notability. Notability doesn't come from accomplishments. It isn't the same as "righteous" or "worthy". 142.105.159.178 (talk) 20:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My Change in the Word "Hiker"

I changed the word "Hiker" to "Adventurer" as McCandless did not go on his journey to conquer a trail, he did it to discover something, whether that be in the world or in himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barretton (talk • contribs) 16:06, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bus was removed

Just read an article about the bus being removed, deaths and rescues being the motivators for the decision:

https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Into-the-Wild-bus-removed-from-Stampede-Trail-by-State-of-Alaska-571357901.html

Might be worth waiting on what they decide to do with the bus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InceptedNoggin (talk • contribs) 04:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here are various sources for the story on the removal of the bus:

* Alaska Public Media: Helicopter removes ‘Into the Wild’ bus that lured Alaska travelers to their deaths

* Alaska's News Source: 'Into the Wild' bus removed from Stampede Trail by State of Alaska

* BBC News: 'Into The Wild' bus removed from Alaska wilderness

* KTVA: Nearly 30 years after 'Into the Wild' hiker's death, infamous bus removed from Alaska wilderness

* NewsColony: 'Into the Wild' bus, known as a deadly tourist lure, has been removed by air

* New York Times (AP): 'Into the Wild' Bus Removed From Alaska Backcountry

* Smithsonian Magazine: 'Into the Wild; Bus Airlifted Out of the Wilderness

* Star Tribune (AP): 'Into the Wild' bus removed from Alaska backcountry

* Washington Post: 'Into the Wild’ author torn over removal of iconic bus: ‘I wrote the book that ruined it'

Fabrickator (talk) 23:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Location of El Golfo de Santa Clara

The location of El Golfo de Santa Clara is given in degrees with fifteen decimal places. That is a precision of about 0.1 nanometers, or the average width of a single atom. Three decimal places, a precision of about 111 meters or 365 feet would be sufficient for the location of a city.

Cook Navigation (talk) 17:59, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cook Navigation: Done! This made me chuckle, thanks for picking up on it :) AviationFreak💬 19:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to know which atom. And what was it an atom of? Oxygen? Nitrogen? Maybe silicon! People could make pilgrimmages to stand on that particular atom, after all feet must have trillions of atoms, some are bound to touch it. Hope nobody breathes it in by accident and takes it anywhere.

84.65.94.92 (talk) 06:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

knowing our luck it's gone already! man, if only i were there when the measurement was taken, i would be one of the lucky ones huh

i agree with the previous writer, that the type of atom should be specified, for precision's sake. tungsten and bismuth are much bigger than silicon or carbon. this is important for future generations to know Acetoe (talk) 02:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Russell Fritz" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Russell Fritz has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 8 § Russell Fritz until a consensus is reached. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:10, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]