Talk:Chris McCandless/Archive 2
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Possible Neutrality Issue
The last paragraph of the introductory section refers to McCandless' name change as a "mystical transformation" and his venture into the wilderness as a "transcendental journey." In my opinion, use of these terms might tend to bias the article toward a spiritual or mystic view of the events it describes. I refrained from making any edits due to my own biased interpretation of McCandless. 184.58.241.158 (talk) 02:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
There are neutrality and tone issues throughout the article. In addition to excessive use of the phrase "It has been speculated," the following phrases stand in need of refining: "Alexander Supertramp, an enigmatic and introspective yet charming loner, who undertook an epic odyssey throughout the United States and Mexico before ultimately heading north" "Krakauer delved deeper into the complex drifter and his restless meanderings" "This candid publication could posthumously hold the key to the motivations driving the now-famous young seeker's mystical transformation into Alexander Supertramp and propel him on his transcendental odyssey toward self-realization" "In the summer of 1986, Chris McCandless travelled to Southern California and reconnected with distant family and friends. It was during this journey" "It is speculated this discovery had a profound impact on the younger McCandless, perhaps playing a significant role in driving the odyssey that was taking shape in his psyche, and set to consume the remainder of the precocious adventurer's remarkable life" "As a side note, his beloved car was later revived" "a local who had given the younger man a ride from Fairbanks to the start of the rugged track just outside the small town of Healy. The good samaritan, Jim Gallien, was seriously concerned" "However, the determined seeker could not be swayed," "On August 12, 1992, McCandless' final journal entry cryptically read:" "Christopher McCandless' (aka Alexander Supertramp)" (excessive reminders of nickname) "The wandering seeker had led a simple and solitary existence for more than three months in the Alaskan." "Although this assertion is becoming less likely, perhaps even a case of confirmation bias , given a poignant development in the Christopher McCandless' story. One that could provide pivotal insight into the personality and mindset of the driven young man." --98.202.121.70 (talk) 10:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed with all of the above concerns, though I can't volunteer to do the changes myself at this time. Someone should tone down the hero worship, unnecessarily emotional content and spiritual talk on this article. Phiwum (talk) 14:20, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed as well and I have a question--why does "seeker" link to the page about Quakers? Seelie (talk) 07:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)Seelie
- Agree with the above points. I started reading this article and was annoyed to find many instances of "Chris" when last names should be used in formal writing. When I went in to change that, I started reading the rest of the text which was just as overly familiar and non-neutral. I ended up rewriting a good portion, adding some sources and completely removing the more "flowery" content. I tried to attribute the speculative content to a specific person as well. As I'm on my phone, it's rather a chore to do more complex edits so I couldn't do as much work as this article still needs. I think the article is still lacking in sources and would benefit from more detail about the subject's background and what actually happened needs to be included instead of endless speculation and attempts to make this into a story about a mystical seeker on a great journey (no idea why "seeker" was linked to Quakers either, but I removed it). Pinkadelica (Talk) 00:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Pinkadelica: I read and found a seperate link on the page Quakers. Maybe they should have put that link instead. Maccore Henni Mii! Pictochat Mii! 01:21, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Agree with the above points. I started reading this article and was annoyed to find many instances of "Chris" when last names should be used in formal writing. When I went in to change that, I started reading the rest of the text which was just as overly familiar and non-neutral. I ended up rewriting a good portion, adding some sources and completely removing the more "flowery" content. I tried to attribute the speculative content to a specific person as well. As I'm on my phone, it's rather a chore to do more complex edits so I couldn't do as much work as this article still needs. I think the article is still lacking in sources and would benefit from more detail about the subject's background and what actually happened needs to be included instead of endless speculation and attempts to make this into a story about a mystical seeker on a great journey (no idea why "seeker" was linked to Quakers either, but I removed it). Pinkadelica (Talk) 00:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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Christopher McCandless → Chris McCandless – This is the name he is most commonly referred by. 192.107.120.90 (talk) 16:53, 2 March 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran(talk) 12:08, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
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Bruce McCandless
I know Christopher's father worked for NASA, but were they related to Bruce McCandless and astronaut Bruce McCandless II?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.50.228.37 (talk) 21:40, 24 May 2018 (UTC)