Talk:Chicago Bulls

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Ben Gordon a Brit?

Now I don't know much about the nationality thing and how it's officially defined. But Ben Gordon grew up in America(Mount Vernon New York); I don't see how his nationality is British. 75.21.89.187 06:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

He actually has dual citizenship, according to a Sports Illustrated article that ran a few weeks ago. Zagalejo 06:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

And why does that make him British and not American? He grew up here and lives here. 75.21.89.187 06:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

If you have to choose one or the other, I agree, American would probably be better. Zagalejo 15:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

He is a British citizen. He has British citizenship. It is not that hard to have dual citizenship. You cannot deny this because it is a fact. Leave it as is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TyrusThomas4lyf (talk • contribs) 06:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC).

Random Facts

I added this section and added one fact/ If anyone else can add something the the random facts section it might help.

Section titles

Someone split the 2004-05 and 2005-06 seasons into separate sections. Should each season get its own section? I think it would be more efficient to leave them combined, using sections to identify eras of the team that were clearly different. And despite Curry's absence, these were fairly similar teams. Gorilla Jones 13:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I don't know bout that, Curry's usual 10 points in the first qtr sure made a difference in my eyes. :) KOS | talk 22:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

POV tweak

Saying Jordan and Pippen are certain to be hall of famers is a bit POV. Corrected to "most fans expect," which while equally uncited, at least puts the anticipation in the name of fans rather than wiki. --JKPrivett 06:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

You have a point with Pippen, but it's fair to say that Jordan is a lock to make the Hall of Fame. 24.15.198.73 03:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Every single player on the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History list that's eligible is in. They're both mortal locks. Quadzilla99 12:23, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you kidding? Every sportswriter and every fan in his right mind knows they're locks.--208.102.189.190 (talk) 18:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Dabullz.net

How significant is the forum at http://www.dabullz.net? Are they established as the biggest unofficial fan forum of the Bulls, or are they just using our site for free advertising (which goes against the guidelines at Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:Spam? --Idont Havaname (Talk) 21:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• I would say you're right to remove it. Gorilla Jones 02:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Too much freaking information

The space allotted to the two past seasons on this page is about the same as the space that covers the 1991-1998 period, which beyond being longer is far more significant to telling the history of the Chicago Bulls. I suggest merging Return to the playoffs and The offseason and the 2005-06 season, while making the entire section smaller and easier to read.

Opinions?

-- gavindow 00:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I had suggested that above but never actually did it. I agree. The notes on JR Smith and Howard Eisley, for example, are irrelevant to this article.Gorilla Jones 03:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• I'd have to disagree. "The signing of Wallace allowed the Bulls to trade Tyson Chandler, the last remaining player of the Krause era, to the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets for veteran power forward P.J. Brown and salary cap space that was used to sign former Bulls co-captain and gritty perimeter defender Adrian Griffin." That is true to a certain extent but not wholly accurate. That information is slightly misleading. The trade for P.J. Brown is not what freed up the cap space. It was the trade for Brown and J.R. Smith that allowed it to happen. Smith was traded to Denver for Eisley's non-guaranteed contract. That is what freed up the cap space. While I agree that J.R. Smith and Howard Eisley are not notable to the bulls and do not merit too much written about them, that entire trade situation should be mentioned. <151B8D">KOS | talk 13:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I actually am working on a re-written article over at User:Gavindow/Chicago_Bulls. It's a work in progress at the moment, but you're welcome to hop on over and add any suggestions. When I'm done, I'll let people know on this page. -- gavindow 06:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not too much information. I'd like it if some information was added on the Luvabulls, Bulls Kidz, Swingin Seniors, Bucket Boys and the Bulls Big man dance squad the Chicago Matadors. BigBoi29

Recent Draft Selections

I removed Luol Deng from the Recent NBA draft picks section because he was drafted by the Suns and traded to the Bulls on draft night.

I think this section would be more useful if it included the actual outcomes of those draft picks. Technically, the Bulls drafted Aldridge and Carney this year, but neither played a minute for them or was ever intended to. That wasn't an accident or a change of plan. For example, wasn't the Bulls' 1987 draft meaningful for a little more than the selection of Olden Polynice? Gorilla Jones 12:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

perhaps a section of Significant Trades would be appropriate. as of now the pippen trade is mentioned in the history section as it occurred during the 'jordan era' Mwhope 21:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Notable Players

We should come to some kind of consensus about who qualifies as a Notable Player. Right now, we basically have everyone from the two three-peat teams, Elton Brand (for winning ROY as a Bull) and a smattering of guys from the 70s. The list is too long. (Perdue, Wennington, Buechler, etc..no love for Jack Haley?) I'd like to codify the rules as follows...

1. Was notable for their achievements as a Bull (not as a member of another team); 2. As a Bull, did one or more of the following - was an All-Star, won a major award (like ROY), set a major record, hit a game-winning shot in a playoff game, was a starter and/or a long-time contributor on a championship or near-championship team.

That would mean our Notable Players are B.J. Armstrong (ehhh), Boerwinkle (maybe), Boozer, Brand, Cartwright, Corzine (maybe), Gilmore, Horace, Harper, Kerr, Kukoc, Oakley, Love, Paxson, Rodman, Sloan, Theus, Van Lier and Walker. (Obviously MJ and Pip are in the Hall of Fame section.) Anyone see any notable exclusions? Bear in mind that's about the same number that the Lakers have. Gorilla Jones 12:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Image needed

A photo of Kirk Hinrich of the Chicago Bulls is needed to replace the promo photo in the infobox. Are there any locals who could manage to do this for the wiki? Thanks.--Alf ^melmac 12:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Who on earth is John Tuck ?

I may be english and not a massive fan of the NBA but even I know the section titled "The 90s Dynasty Part II - Return of Tuck and another three-peat" should be about the return of Jordan and not this mystical player called John Tuck ??

Please either sort this out or correct me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.84.58.140 (talk) 17:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

Someone has vandalized the page. I reverted the John Tuck stuff, because it's total nonsense. Zagalejo 22:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Greatest Uniform.

"The Bulls have always had the greatest uniforms compared to other teams"

According to who!?

Either provide a source, or delete what appears to be simply opinion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.208.239.141 (talk) 14:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

Time for truncation?

When I added the rivalries section, I noticed how large this article is. Is it time to shorten this article by creating new articles for specific large sections? If so, which sections should be shortened and have new articles created? Perhaps the History section could use some shortening.

DaDoc540 03:19, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Noah is French.

Noah is officialy a French player since last month, so the flag next his name should be a French flag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.140.123.111 (talk) 09:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. He also opted to play for the French National Team which makes him a French player by FIBA standards.--Mikebrand (talk) 02:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Season by Season pages

I noticed that the pages for individual Bulls seasons don't really have much written in them and are basically just listings of standings and rosters, etc. Is this by design, or have people just not gotten around to adding writing to them? I ask because this seems to be a departure from what's done in the pages for individual seasons of baseball teams that I've seen. At any rate, does anyone care if I add text to the pages that I feel I can add text to? This might also be a way to keep the page shorter as suggested 2 posts above this one. GambitRF (talk) 22:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

People haven't gotten around to adding text on the seasons pages. Add as much as you can. Sloclops 06:09, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Season by Season records

Why is there a whole listing of the season by season records in the main page AND in its own page? It is redundant and one of them needs to go. I originally created its own page so the length of the main Bulls page wouldn't be so long and truncated the season by season results on the main page to the past 5 seasons like some other sports pages I have seen. Anyone have any thoughts on this matter? Sloclops 06:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Depth chart

I agree, just get rid of it. It requires too much original analysis. Zagalejo^^^ 01:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Depth Chart should be removed

It was suggested by "KnowledgeOfSelf" that i discuss this in the chat. I believe that depth charts are very arbitrary. Players are often substitued in for positions other than those listed in the depth chart as well as in different orders. It is for this reason that i believe they serve no purpose on wikipedia. With your help, we can eliminate all the depth charts on wikipedia! Who's with me!

I guess Zagalejo is with me. I didnt see that before. Thank you.—Preceding unsigned comment added by No compassion (talk • contribs)

I agree, as well. The depth charts should be removed.--Crzycheetah 21:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

My recent edits

I would like to know your guys' thoughts. I recently edited the entire top section of the article. Which I think is a lot better. I also added the uniform pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chasesboys (talk • contribs) 06:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I was also thinking about going more in-depth on the individual championship seasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chasesboys (talk • contribs) 06:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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Can we get this article re-rated?

I really think this article is good enough to be a featured article. A C rating seems way too low for this article. What do you guys think? Chasesboys (talk) 01:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I think a C is fair. The article suffers from serious recentism. There's almost nothing about the pre-Jordan era.

I have been meaning to work on this article for a long time, but I've never got around to it. Maybe some day. Zagalejo^^^ 04:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe its not featured article material but I do think it deserves at least more than a C. Just because it really is one of the best NBA team articles there is on wikipedia. Chasesboys (talk) 04:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

"Another One Bites the Dust"

During the Chicago Bulls' championship dynasty days, didn't the Bulls used to play "Another One Bites the Dust" every time they won a home game? If so, and if they still do, I think this potential fact should be mentioned somewhere in this article. Mr. Brain (talk) 06:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The 1996 Chicago bulls

Hello everyone, Im thinkin starting a page on the 1996 chicago bulls.That year the Chicago bulls had the best recorded ever in history of basketball finishing 72/10 I want to show focus on the records they broke that year. So if anyway has any good stats and facts about the season that would be nice --Troy.a.wright (talk) 13:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

You might be interested in expanding 1995–96 Chicago Bulls season. Zagalejo^^^ 18:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I created banners for the retired numbers section

I think they look pretty good. What are your thoughts and or opinions? PositivelyJordan (talk) 03:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

They do look good, and they are better than plain text. CollisionCourse (talk) 21:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

They look good, but I'm not sure if we can use them. The image is freely licensed and contains a non-free logo - you can either have one or the other. So, we can either have a freely licensed image of the banner w/o the Bulls logo, or change the licensing of the image to reflect that it non-free. If we were to do the latter option, it would also require a fair-use rationale.--  StarScream1007  ►Talk  01:24, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

I saw someone put this up at WP:GAN, so I thought I'd note how to get this to Good Article status. First, many of the sections are unreferenced, such as the pre-jordan and rivalries section. Anything debateable needs a source. Second, this article is a bit recentist right now; the 2007-08 season alone is longer than the period from 1966 to 1984. That doesn't work. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:42, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Alt Jersey

There are only two jerseys listed. Someone forgot the alt black one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctutacticalops (talk • contribs) 13:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Assault on the Record Book?

"In the 1986–87 NBA season Jordan continued his assault on the record books, leading the league in scoring with 37.1 points per game and becoming the first Bull named to the all-NBA first team." No actual records Jordan set that year are mentioned, making me think "assault on the record book" is merely a rhetorical flourish and ought to be removed. GeneCallahan (talk) 03:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

He did set a number of team records, at least [1], but that sentence is still too flowery for Wikipedia standards. Feel free to reword it. Zagalejo^^^ 06:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

20th anniversary 1st championship

Hi,

I don't have much experience editing Wikipedia, but I am curious if anyone else finds it notable that the Bulls are celebrating the 20th anniversary of their first championship (1990-91 season)? That roster was honored during halftime of their game against Utah on March 12th, and the current players have commemorative patches on the uniforms as well this season (logo can be found here: http://pippenainteasy.com/files/2011/03/chi_bulls_20th_300.jpg ) Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.126.150.154 (talk) 20:17, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

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Injury

Derrick "Mr Glass" Rose is hurt again. I don't know how to change that. –DangerousJXD (talk) 21:12, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

• @DangerousJXD: Typically, that level of detail would be most relevant to the player's bio, Derrick Rose, or the related team season article, 2014–15 Chicago Bulls season. The franchise article, Chicago Bulls, ideally would be limited to very high-level overview of the franchise, not day-to-day minutiae; obviously this article, and many others, could use some clean up.—Bagumba (talk) 21:51, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2015

Owner is not lebron james 50.151.207.154 (talk) 02:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Already done Stickee (talk) 03:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

This has made the news, so we may see more of these antics today. Tarc (talk) 12:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2015

Please add Robert Judelson to the "Owner(s)" and "Alternate NBA Governor: Robert Judelson" to the "Chicago Bulls" content box. Chitown98 (talk) 03:37, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done:. Hi Chitown98. That source doesn't name Judelson as an actual owner. To the contrary, this infographic by the Chicago Tribune says Reinsdorf owns 100% of the shares in the Bulls, so I'm going to assume Judelson is not an owner. Altamel (talk) 04:23, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

References

Guy Rodgers

Guy Rodgers is missing from the Hall of Famers section — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megacheez (talk • contribs) 05:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Ownership

Shouldn't there be a section on ownership, transfers of ownership, and landmarks/strategies/constraints associated with the ownership group? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnskrb2 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Rivalries

The following sentence is no longer relevant: "The Bulls share rivalries with the Detroit Pistons, New York Knicks, Cleveland Cavaliers and the Miami Heat." There are no longer such rivalries, they are in the past, they have been shredded; it should be in the past-tense, not present tense. I await consensus before reverting.Mwinog2777 (talk) 17:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• A casual search seems to come up with content on the web indicating these are ongoing rivalries. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:12, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
  • My casual search turns up the opposite; since I have no support among the followers of this page, I will drop the issue for now. Thank you for your above comments.Mwinog2777 (talk) 17:09, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

"Sunk back into medicority since."

This paragraph needs an update:

Since 1998, the Bulls have failed to regain their former success. The franchise struggled throughout the 2000s, but showed promise in the early 2010s, lead by Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah, culminating in a 62-win season in 2010–11. However, due to injuries to and departures of key players, the franchise was never able to build on that success and has sunk back into mediocrity since.

Chicago Bulls are in first place in Eastern Conference in January, 2022. 97.115.117.163 (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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John Paxon's Number Retired

Is there proof that John Paxson's number is retired? According to this page, it was retired December 1st, 2022, but there isn't any mention of it anywhere online. IXPpl (talk) 17:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)