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Wording of the lead

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Johnymin, I've challenged your edit to the lead. Could you justify why this wording is a better summary of the article's body if you're going to reinstate it? Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:57, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because it’s obvious, centre right parties haven’t opposed immigration in comparison to social democrats, and a lot of centre left politicians opposed lgbt rights historic ally, and it’s not said in the wiki of centre left. It’s a centerleft’s bias against the others, it’s and oversimplified phrase. For example the German liberal party is centre right and it wasn’t anti lgbt, while a faction of social democrats were social conservatives. Johnymin (talk) 17:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Historically* sorry for some mistakes, I’m argentinian Johnymin (talk) 17:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And the “center left” peronists in the 90s like Cristina Kirchner were not more pro gay than Marci. She was homophobe but didn’t say it. Johnymin (talk) 17:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well Argentina is complex because you can read that until the 90s or the ne Millenium, the UCR was like the center left, and the Justicialista Party was like the center right. Johnymin (talk) 17:05, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Read or notice, I’m confused. Johnymin (talk) 17:06, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The apostrophe and s for center left isn’t needed? Johnymin (talk) 17:09, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Macri* Johnymin (talk) 17:07, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In Australia, UK and New Zealand there are conservatives in the Labour Party, they are still center left. Some democratic politicians in USA opposed fiercely lgbt rights, and it isn’t in the wiki of center left. Johnymin (talk) 17:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is all your own analysis, which shouldn't be a factor in what goes in the article. There are sources in the article confirming the things that you removed. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What sources, thre is not a link in that paragraph, is only information without external links. Johnymin (talk) 23:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The paragraph about LGBT people is supported by Magni & Reynolds (2023). Pardos-Prado (2015), Taflaga (2023), and Bale (2008) are all cited in the paragraph about immigration and multiculturalism. These are then summarized in the lead, as required by the Manual of Style page for the lead section. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are biased, a lot of leftwinhers were or are homophobes and it is not included in thw wikis of left wing politics and center lefr politics. The causes have no ideology. Stop thinking lgbt is a left-right fight. It is a cause of all Johnymin (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the wikis* Johnymin (talk) 00:07, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I respect ypur views, understand that lgbt rights is not a cause of the left, anti rights activists are on both the left and the right Johnymin (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence that says that has no number link, hasn't a redirection or a quote, and probably are partially fake to show right wingers as all homophobes when it isn't true Johnymin (talk) 00:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leftwingers* Johnymin (talk) 00:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't opinion, you are biased and only beimg your views, acepting that those authors were probably influenced by their political views is not wrong Johnymin (talk) 02:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
bimg* Johnymin (talk) 02:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing* Johnymin (talk) 02:28, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can edit your comments, rather than posting a further comment with a correction. CoconutOctopus talk 11:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Venezuela

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The antichavista coalition is left wing to centre right, is highly big tent, and they didn't regain power, they only have won a legislative election, annulled later by Maduro regime. The coalition is mainly liberal, centrist, you can't lie with the humanitarian crisis of the country. Acción democratica and Voluntad Popular are center lfert amd part of this coalition. No way it is center right, it is antichavista. Johnymin (talk) 05:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]