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This page is an Archive of the discussions from Carrie Underwood talk page (Discussion page).
(January 2010 - December 2010) - Please Do not edit!

Edit history removed?

What the heck happened that would cause some of the recent edit history to be made unavailable? Is it some sort of glitch or was the vandalism so bad and egregious that the editors decided on wiping it from view? I've never seen that happen before. Ducold (talk) 10:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

The Carrie Underwood pages are being redone with links to detail pages. Look around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.64.51 (talk) 15:51, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Last name

Why does everyone assume that since she got married she has to take her husband's last name? Women don't have to change their last name the second they get married. Carrie would have to legally have it changed and then I don't think she will use it professionaly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.73.231.18 (talk) 00:14, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

She took his name. Too bad for you! NorthernThunder (talk) 06:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
No, too bad for her. Always sad to see a woman demean herself that way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.157.188.173 (talk) 07:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
In what way is that sad, and how is that demeaning? If the worst thing that happens to you during the course of your life is that your last name changes, count yourself among the blessed few that have no real problems, no real perspective, and no real point. 174.102.22.97 (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
See Ashlee Simpson as an example. Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 07:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
People need to stop changing her last name in the article unless and until she starts using her married name professionally and in public. Ducold (talk) 10:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
If and when reliable sources indicate a name change then it would be appropriate to change the artcile name - until then it should remain as it is. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
She took his last name, they talk about it in the article here however the web summary doesn't mention it, but the newstand version Mike Fisher says that she will be Carrie Fisher but that she will continue using her name for her professional work. -DJSasso (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
People can call themselves anything, the question is has she legally changed her name? Also, the edit summary says that she will be changing her name, if it hasn't happened yet then we shouldn't make the change. SQGibbon (talk) 15:04, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Per a US Magazine story here: "After their lavish July 10 wedding in rural Georgia, Underwood, 27, changed her last name to Fisher, but will "still be Carrie Underwood" professionally, the insider says." However, either way we should still refer to her as Carrie Underwood as that's the name most people know her as. Tabercil (talk) 14:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Not sure how reliable a source US Magazine is especially when they're quoting an "insider". And while the title of the article should remain Carrie Underwood as you note, how she's named within sections of the article might change depending on her name change. SQGibbon (talk) 17:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd say Underwood should be used throughout the article as I can't see any circumstance offhand where it'd be appropriate to refer to her by Carrie Fisher. Tabercil (talk) 17:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Why isn't her last name Fisher on here? It's her legal last name. People Magazine, US Weekly, OK and probably well over a 100 newspaper articles stated that she took Mike's last name but, that she was still going to use her maiden name professionally.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilypada94 (talk • contribs) 06:11, August 26, 2010

It is - read the last sentence of the Personal Life section: "It was reported that she has changed her last name to Fisher, but will "still be Carrie Underwood" professionally." Tabercil (talk) 13:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Is an article referring to what an "insider" says a reliable source for inclusion here? SQGibbon (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Can you provide such a source? The one currently in the article refers to an "insider" making the claim that she has changed her name. We need something better than that. SQGibbon (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to source things yet but, I can give you a link that may help: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20401049,00.html.

Thanks, that they signed their name "Mike and Carrie Fisher" is interesting but does not mean that she's gone through the necessary legal steps to have her name officially changed. That's the step we should be looking for in order to include this information in the article. SQGibbon (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

A married woman does not have to do any legal actions to start using the new name if she prefers to use it. Any person can actually begin to use a new name at any time without legal action. It would seem odd to have her sign a contract with Sony and sign it Carrie Fisher. Robinannhunt (talk) 15:46, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

The new appearances page and general clutter

I believe a link to the new appearance page be added to this page.

The page is also cluttered with detainl information like the American Idol information. American Idol should be summarized and the details put on a separate page. There is other information on this page that is also cluttering up the page and making it unprofessional. The page needs more summarization and links to detail pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.64.51 (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

The box to the right that contains some web links should show a link to the official fanclub site. www.carrieunderwood.fm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.64.51 (talk) 15:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I like where the appearances link is placed. 76.23.64.51 (talk) 19:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The Idol detail information is shown completely in the American Idol link so the big box of each week's results is unnecessary and should be removed to reduce the clutter. AI is not Carrie's main thing anymore. I think it was placed here for emphasis back in the early days but is not needed anymore.Robinannhunt (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

WHERE DID THE APPEARANCES PAGE GO?76.23.64.51 (talk) 21:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)Robin

Associated acts

Since there is some disagreement in who is an associate act of Underwood, I am starting a discussion here. Reading through Template:Infobox musical artist and the article itself, I think the only two associated acts are Brad Paisley and Randy Travis.

From Template:Infobox musical artist states "Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together". Dolly Parton is mentioned as singing in Underwood's Christmas special and Rascal Flatts are mentioned as singing "Eagle" with Underwood once. Neither of these fir the conditions above, as such I am going to remove them with a link to this discussion. Aspects (talk) 00:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

What about Keith Urban and Sons of Sylvia?
They both have toured with Carrie. So, I think they should be included...
Also, I still think Dolly Parton and Rascal Flatts should be included too. If they have collaborated with Carrie, despite being only one time, they collaborated, they're associated acts.
ChrisBS 12 December 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.24.87.139 (talk) 01:09, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I feel as though Sons of Sylvia should be included because they have recorded a duet with Carrie, and the song was published on her Play On album. I don't see why that doesn't qualify to be listed as an associated act. Paisley, Travis, and Sons of Sylvia have each recorded individual duets that were published and put on albums, so I don't know why the latter of the three has to be excluded from the list. Undrwood9098 (talk) 01:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
See above, "multiple occasions", as such I am removing them from the infobox. Aspects (talk) 05:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
See above, "or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together", as such they should STAY on the associated acts list. And if you want a multiple collaboration as a good reason to keep them on the list, then the fact that they collaborated over 100 times in a single year in different cities every time should be more than enough of a reason to have their names included. They don't need anything more to qualify. They're associated; simple as that. Undrwood9098 (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
A song is not an album. The performances are not the collaborations, the song is and they only collaborated for one song. Aspects (talk) 04:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Keith Urban is not an associated act, in that they did tour together, but it was not as a single act playing together. Tony Bennett is not an associated act, in that they collaborated on one song and not the entire album. As such, I am going to remove them. Aspects (talk) 04:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit history removed?

What the heck happened that would cause some of the recent edit history to be made unavailable? Is it some sort of glitch or was the vandalism so bad and egregious that the editors decided on wiping it from view? I've never seen that happen before. Ducold (talk) 10:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

The Carrie Underwood pages are being redone with links to detail pages. Look around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.64.51 (talk) 15:51, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I love you Carrie you are my role model. I love it how your not afraid to let people know your a Christian. I love your music. 

Amber webb23 (talk) 02:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Article length

The length of this article seems way out of proportion to the subject's importance. Avocats (talk) 02:00, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


Last name

Why does everyone assume that since she got married she has to take her husband's last name? Women don't have to change their last name the second they get married. Carrie would have to legally have it changed and then I don't think she will use it professionaly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.73.231.18 (talk) 00:14, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

She took his name. Too bad for you! NorthernThunder (talk) 06:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
No, too bad for her. Always sad to see a woman demean herself that way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.157.188.173 (talk) 07:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
In what way is that sad, and how is that demeaning? If the worst thing that happens to you during the course of your life is that your last name changes, count yourself among the blessed few that have no real problems, no real perspective, and no real point. 174.102.22.97 (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
See Ashlee Simpson as an example. Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 07:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
People need to stop changing her last name in the article unless and until she starts using her married name professionally and in public. Ducold (talk) 10:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
If and when reliable sources indicate a name change then it would be appropriate to change the artcile name - until then it should remain as it is. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
She took his last name, they talk about it in the article here however the web summary doesn't mention it, but the newstand version Mike Fisher says that she will be Carrie Fisher but that she will continue using her name for her professional work. -DJSasso (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
People can call themselves anything, the question is has she legally changed her name? Also, the edit summary says that she will be changing her name, if it hasn't happened yet then we shouldn't make the change. SQGibbon (talk) 15:04, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Per a US Magazine story here: "After their lavish July 10 wedding in rural Georgia, Underwood, 27, changed her last name to Fisher, but will "still be Carrie Underwood" professionally, the insider says." However, either way we should still refer to her as Carrie Underwood as that's the name most people know her as. Tabercil (talk) 14:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Not sure how reliable a source US Magazine is especially when they're quoting an "insider". And while the title of the article should remain Carrie Underwood as you note, how she's named within sections of the article might change depending on her name change. SQGibbon (talk) 17:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd say Underwood should be used throughout the article as I can't see any circumstance offhand where it'd be appropriate to refer to her by Carrie Fisher. Tabercil (talk) 17:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Why isn't her last name Fisher on here? It's her legal last name. People Magazine, US Weekly, OK and probably well over a 100 newspaper articles stated that she took Mike's last name but, that she was still going to use her maiden name professionally.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilypada94 (talk • contribs) 06:11, August 26, 2010

It is - read the last sentence of the Personal Life section: "It was reported that she has changed her last name to Fisher, but will "still be Carrie Underwood" professionally." Tabercil (talk) 13:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Is an article referring to what an "insider" says a reliable source for inclusion here? SQGibbon (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Can you provide such a source? The one currently in the article refers to an "insider" making the claim that she has changed her name. We need something better than that. SQGibbon (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to source things yet but, I can give you a link that may help: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20401049,00.html.

Thanks, that they signed their name "Mike and Carrie Fisher" is interesting but does not mean that she's gone through the necessary legal steps to have her name officially changed. That's the step we should be looking for in order to include this information in the article. SQGibbon (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

A married woman does not have to do any legal actions to start using the new name if she prefers to use it. Any person can actually begin to use a new name at any time without legal action. It would seem odd to have her sign a contract with Sony and sign it Carrie Fisher. Robinannhunt (talk) 15:46, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

The new appearances page and general clutter

I believe a link to the new appearance page be added to this page.

The page is also cluttered with detainl information like the American Idol information. American Idol should be summarized and the details put on a separate page. There is other information on this page that is also cluttering up the page and making it unprofessional. The page needs more summarization and links to detail pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.64.51 (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

The box to the right that contains some web links should show a link to the official fanclub site. www.carrieunderwood.fm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.64.51 (talk) 15:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I like where the appearances link is placed. 76.23.64.51 (talk) 19:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The Idol detail information is shown completely in the American Idol link so the big box of each week's results is unnecessary and should be removed to reduce the clutter. AI is not Carrie's main thing anymore. I think it was placed here for emphasis back in the early days but is not needed anymore.Robinannhunt (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

WHERE DID THE APPEARANCES PAGE GO?76.23.64.51 (talk) 21:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)Robin

Associated acts

Since there is some disagreement in who is an associate act of Underwood, I am starting a discussion here. Reading through Template:Infobox musical artist and the article itself, I think the only two associated acts are Brad Paisley and Randy Travis.

From Template:Infobox musical artist states "Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together". Dolly Parton is mentioned as singing in Underwood's Christmas special and Rascal Flatts are mentioned as singing "Eagle" with Underwood once. Neither of these fir the conditions above, as such I am going to remove them with a link to this discussion. Aspects (talk) 00:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

What about Keith Urban and Sons of Sylvia?
They both have toured with Carrie. So, I think they should be included...
Also, I still think Dolly Parton and Rascal Flatts should be included too. If they have collaborated with Carrie, despite being only one time, they collaborated, they're associated acts.
ChrisBS 12 December 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.24.87.139 (talk) 01:09, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I feel as though Sons of Sylvia should be included because they have recorded a duet with Carrie, and the song was published on her Play On album. I don't see why that doesn't qualify to be listed as an associated act. Paisley, Travis, and Sons of Sylvia have each recorded individual duets that were published and put on albums, so I don't know why the latter of the three has to be excluded from the list. Undrwood9098 (talk) 01:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
See above, "multiple occasions", as such I am removing them from the infobox. Aspects (talk) 05:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
See above, "or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together", as such they should STAY on the associated acts list. And if you want a multiple collaboration as a good reason to keep them on the list, then the fact that they collaborated over 100 times in a single year in different cities every time should be more than enough of a reason to have their names included. They don't need anything more to qualify. They're associated; simple as that. Undrwood9098 (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
A song is not an album. The performances are not the collaborations, the song is and they only collaborated for one song. Aspects (talk) 04:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Keith Urban is not an associated act, in that they did tour together, but it was not as a single act playing together. Tony Bennett is not an associated act, in that they collaborated on one song and not the entire album. As such, I am going to remove them. Aspects (talk) 04:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Underwood collaborated TWO TIMES with Tony Bennett: On "For Once In My Life" and "It Had To Be You". It's the same with Randy Travis, two collaborations. So, Bennett is an associated act too. ChrisBS 15 July 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.29.81.35 (talk) 03:53, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

"For Once in My Life" would not count as a collaboration because they sang together with two other people for one time for a TV show, while she collaborated with Randy Travis for two different songs that were or will be released from two different albums. Aspects (talk) 02:43, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 23 November 2011

Please change "Carrie Underwood's voice spans up to a four octave vocal range" to "...a three octave vocal range."

A four octave range is pretty much impossible. A 3 1/2 octave voice is possible. A 3 octave voice is awesome and definitely most likely. I'm a classically trained opera singer with a Masters Degree in Vocal Performance and I teach voice lessons. I've never heard anyone with more than a 3 octave range - and that's pretty incredible. Please change that on her page.

98.203.138.104 (talk) 03:10, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I removed the whole sentence as it was unsourced anyways. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:14, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

New Appearance

Can someone please change Carrie's picture to something more recent such as her at the 2012 Grammy Awards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.116.240 (talk) 07:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Carrie Underwood is not of Scottish ancestry or Muscagee Indian

According to Carrie Underwood, she has no idea why wikipedia says has Scottish heritage, and that she had tried to change that information on the page but others kept putting it back -

That's on my Wikipedia and I don't know why. Someone keeps putting it up there. According to that page I'm also a member of a Native American tribe. We keep changing it and they keep changing it back: they're adamant I'm Scottish.

Whoever that is responsible for this formation is being badly misled. Source - Guardian posted by User:Hzh.

The Sound of Music Live!

In Filmography it lists The Sound of Music but directs to the Musical. There is a page called The Sound of Music Live! about the production Underwood is in, is it possible to change it to that? 198.46.101.146 (talk) 02:27, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 02:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2014

Carrie Marie Underwood

March 11th 1983

Children: 1

Spouses: Christopher Briggs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.183.21 (talk) 20:21, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

 Not done. No source given. --Musdan77 (talk) 02:38, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

She is not a mezzo soprano 7/19/14

Carrie is a natural lyric soprano that artificially darkens her tone by using an excess amount of glottal muscles to mimic the color of a mezzo. She also does not have the registration of a mezzo soprano, as she practically has no voice below the 4th octave. Her lower register is extremely airy and often inaccessible in live performances. It's absolutely absurd that wiki has her down as being a mezzo and Martina McBride down as a soprano. If we're going to reference vocal pedagogy on here, then we should at least know what we're talking about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryebread1988 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2014

Please revise the part under the Artistry/Voice section that states "Underwood has a mezzo-soprano vocal range" to "Underwood has a soprano vocal range." It's a common misconception that she is a mezzo soprano because of how she manipulates her throat to assume a darker, heavier timbre.

Sources: Broadway World and Music (note that the same source was cited for a portion of Ariana Grande's wiki section, and it was accepted as legit) Ryebread1988 (talk) 06:24, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Another source that is currently being used claims otherwise. —cyberpower ChatOnline 09:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Album and singles sales numbers

If the number for the album and singles sales numbers are to be changed, they need to be based on a Wikipedia:Reliable source. The 64 million "records" numbers that keeps getting added is based on a press release from Carrie Underwood's website, [1]. Other non-reliable sources slightly changed the press release and then printed their own press releases, [2], [3] and [4]. Notice that after mention of 64 records sold, in each of the press releases the next face mentioned is 18 number one songs. Besides the reliable source, I also have concerns with the term "records" to combine both album sales and single sales. Most Wikipedia articles and reliable sources split them up and label them accordingly. Some people equate records with albums, so by combining them together, the press release in my opinion seems to be trying to over inflate her sales numbers. Aspects (talk) 17:32, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2014

Her debut album, Some Hearts, was released in 2005. Bolstered by the huge crossover success of the singles "Jesus, Take the Wheel" and "Before He Cheats", it went on to become the fastest selling debut country album in Nielsen SoundScan history, the best-selling solo female debut album in country music history and the best-selling country album of the last ten years. Underwood won three Grammy Awards for the album, including Best New Artist. Her second album, Carnival Ride, released in 2007, had one of the biggest ever opening weeks by a female artist and earned Underwood two Grammy Awards, for the singles "Last Name" and "I Told You So". Her next two albums, 2009's Play On and 2012's Blown Away, were both their year's second best-selling release by a female artist. The former spawned the successful single "Cowboy Casanova" and the latter's single "Blown Away" won Underwood a Grammy Award. With over 16 million albums and 30 million singles sold worldwide, and her tour revenues, Underwood is the biggest American Idol earner, the fourth biggest album seller of the past ten years and one of the RIAA's top digital artists of all time. Additionally, Forbes estimates that she is worth over $100 million. Leobastin (talk) 03:54, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Am I correct in thinking the only thing you want changed is the order of the two songs? If so, provide some sort of rationale. Cannolis (talk) 04:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Done reasonable enough per User:Leobastin's talk page Cannolis (talk) 05:17, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2014

The spelling of the abbreviation for Pennsylvania is NOT "P.A.", which is what is in the text under her Personal Life section for the line in question. Pennsylvania is referred to as Pa. or PA when using abbreviation. Or just spell it out. Pittsburgh is a very well none city and you can even leave the state off, especially since it is a sports reference.

...the MLB All Star Game in Pittsburgh, [USE: city alone OR Pa. OR PA OR Pennsylvania] and at Game 3 of the.... OffshorePirate (talk) 19:17, 6 November 2014 (UTC) Thanks! OffshorePirate

Done Cannolis (talk) 23:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2014

Please change the artist of "Bless the broken road" from The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band to Rascal Flatts, http://www.rascalflatts.com/album/discography/feels-like-today#.VH05cTHF8d0 Roxannatice (talk) 04:04, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Not done: The text "The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band" does not appear in this article. Stickee (talk) 04:20, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
To be fair "Nitty Gritty Dirt Band" is listed in the collapsed table of Underwood's American Idol performances. The column is for the original artist and for "Bless the Broken Road" that would be The Nitty Gritty Dirty Band, so it should not be changed. Aspects (talk) 09:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Baby name

Add son's name: Isaiah Michael Fisher.

70.27.25.52 (talk) 22:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Not needed in the article Per WP:BLPNAME. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 23:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Needs source. It can be added "if reliably sourced". --Musdan77 (talk) 18:38, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
No. Non-notable minor children should have no identifying content on them in articles per WP:BLPNAME and WP:DOB. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 19:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
That's not what they say. Try reading both of those sections completely and carefully. --Musdan77 (talk) 19:26, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
If they are sourced yes they can go into the article but at least in this case I don't think the names add any "significant value" to the article or are "relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject". I do agree that WP:DOB does not really apply in this situation. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 20:46, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Musdan77, I have read them, numerous times. And the issue has been hashed over at BLP/N numerous times. Typically, the consensus is to leave the names and other identifiable info on non-notable minor children out for privacy reasons. We are to err on the side of caution with BLPs. Additionally, the name and birthdate of a celebrity's child does not enhance the reader's understanding of an article subject, therefore, it is unneeded content. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:52, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2015

In the section about product endorsements, it says "Sketchers" but Skechers does not have a "t" in it. Your hyperlink takes you to the Skechers wikipedia page, where it is spelled correctly.

Wfbacker (talk) 01:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Done --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 02:04, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

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Rolling Stone claim

@TheHipHopRapping: I removed the claim that Underwood is "female vocalist of her generation of any genre" because

a) The claim is contentious. It may be true for the US country scene, but as long as she doesn't start, say, overtone singing, such a sweeping claim is guarantueed to be false, and certain to be contested.
b) While it does contain the claim, the Rolling Stone piece cited is gossip about an award ceremony, presumably by an unnamed staff writer. It was clearly not written by a music critic, as was claimed. This means the claim is poorly sourced.

Per WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:BLPGOSSIP, such claims have to be removed immediately. Paradoctor (talk) 10:06, 13 October 2016 (UTC)


@Paradoctor:, "Contentious" may be what you personally think of the critic's perception. The very fact that you were the first Wikipedia user to say that in two years since it was added to this page just assures that. And it is far from being "gossip", since the article was written by five Rolling Stone critics, and can be found here: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/2014-cma-awards-performers-winners-20141106 Rolling Stone is one of the most reliable sources one can add to Wikipedia. You and other people may not agree with what they said of the singer, but the source is reliable and is clearly not gossip, so much so that it had been here for two years until you claimed what you claimed and removed it. ChrisBS (talk), 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Rolling Stone is just a magazine, and is no true reflection of what the public actually wants. Anyone who has followed the magazine knows that good articles can be purchased to promote any artist. The fact is overwhelmingly obvious that Carrie is not the top vocalist of any generation. We can ask vocal coaches or we can look at the fact that Carrie is unable to sell enough tickets on her own to sell out a concert stadium. Carrie's career is on the decline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.205.22.98 (talk) 23:17, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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RFC about including country in the lead

There is a clear consensus that the article should refer to her as a singer, not a country singer.

Cunard (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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In a discussion here, it was decided that whether or not to include the genre of an artist in the lead of the article. So should this article refer to her as just a singer in the lead or should it be country singer? RfC relisted by Cunard (talk) at 03:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC). RfC relisted by Cunard (talk) at 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC). JDDJS (talk) 02:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

  • Country singer while she has dabbled in other genres, she is notable for her work in country music which is why she is referenced as "Country Music's reigning Queen", and is the woman with most number-one hits in the history of the Billboard Country Airplay chart. Most sources refer to her specifically as a country singer and not just as a singer. If you only look at her singing career outside of country music, she likely isn't even notable enough for her own article. JDDJS (talk) 02:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Singer as a more succinct way of describing her accurately. I don't deny that she's made lots of country material, but using that genre alone in the opening sentence also gives the misleading impression that she hasn't worked in any other genre. There honestly is no convincing reason to incorrectly imply something that's known to not be true or make the opening any wordier than it needs to be. A more appropriate way to discuss genre within lead is with albums or perhaps success on certain charts, which this already does. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:47, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Singer - Summoned by bot. Because she's released music in other genres, describing her specifically as a "country singer" is inaccurate. Meatsgains(talk) 01:33, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Singer - Summoned by bot. While best known originally as being a Country artist, she has crossed over into other formats (such as Adult Contemporary and Pop). To use another example, would you list Taylor Swift as being a Country singer in her lead sentence? After all, her career began in the Country format, right? I'm in favor of using general terms in situations like these. StrikerforceTalk 14:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • (Summoned by bot) Singer Since she is not limited to the Country genre, we should use the most general term to describe her, which is singer. Maybe she is more notable as a Country artist, but I still believe that describing her as such would be misleading and inaccurate. --Kostas20142 (talk) 09:38, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Singer - Summoned by bot. She has songs in multiple genres, she's not limited to just country. Meatsgains(talk) 00:49, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
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November 2017 accident?

I was wondering if anyone had noted to put down her accident from last year on one of the topics? I remember seeing, reading and hearing about it all the time, but I haven't seen it on this wiki page. Greenskyred (talk) 00:56, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

It has not been put on the page.. I think it should be as it is a crucial part of her history and life and impacted her career. --Jonathan Joseph (talk) 06:37, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Picture

Can someone get a new, recent picture posted on the main page ASAP? Thanks. --Jonathan Joseph (talk) 05:42, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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Kissing an underaged boy

In 2012, Carrie Underwood gave a twelve year old boy, Chase Kurnick, his first kiss on stage in Louisville, Kentucky during the Blown Away Tour. Does this seem like a subject worth a spot on Underwood's page? Does the twenty nine year old woman get a pass on kissing a twelve year old child, just because she's a attractive and carefree celebrity?Traptor12 (talk) 19:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

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COVID-19 commentary

An IP editor removed the section without explanation. Usually I'd revert an unexplained edit, but the section has been contentiously edited in the recent past and I don't think it belongs in the article. Underwood is not an authority on medicine and her opinions and reports of her or her husband's behavior on COVID-19 have nothing to do with why she is notable. I say leave it out. Thank you. SchreiberBike | ⌨  16:39, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Why is Carrie Underwood#COVID-19 commentary included in the article? If there's no objection, I'll remove it. SchreiberBike | ⌨  03:04, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

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Carrie Underwood was not the first Caucasian woman to win.

Seems like editors forgot about Kelly Clarkson. 2600:387:B:5:0:0:0:56 (talk) 23:44, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

I tagged it. (CC) Tbhotch™ 23:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Article integrity

This article is excessive and reads much like a buzzword-overblown PR-piece. So much unnecessary info and too many links. 2A01:598:D835:FE99:9CE0:9B26:4B0D:919F (talk) 14:20, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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