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A fact from Carbonaceous sulfur hydride appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 November 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the synthetic compound carbonaceous sulfur hydride is the world's first room-temperature superconductor?

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Hi all, great job making this page so fast. We only have seven days to nominate the article for WP:Did you know and I very much believe that should be done. We need to double the size of the article first, to at least 1500 characters of prose. This would be great for Did you know, just "Did you know, Carbonaceous sulfur hydride is the first ever room temperature superconductor?" or something like that. Any thoughts? I will help out with the article where I can. Thanks again! Footlessmouse (talk) 23:08, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My proposal for Did you know. Please let me know what you think as the deadline to submit is in just a few days. Thanks! Footlessmouse (talk) 00:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

... that synthesized carbonaceous sulfur hydride is the world's first room-temperature superconductor?

I have went ahead and submitted the hook for did you know. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know. Footlessmouse (talk) 04:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:36, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the synthetic compound carbonaceous sulfur hydride is the world's first room-temperature superconductor? Sources: ^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]
- ALT1:... that carbonaceous sulfur hydride was discovered to be the world's first room-temperature superconductor?

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Created/expanded by Footlessmouse (talk) and Graeme Bartlett (talk). Nominated by Footlessmouse (talk) at 04:36, 17 October 2020 (UTC). REVIEW:[reply]

Article is New enough (created);

Article is Long enough;

Article is Within Policy;

Hook fits desired Format Length and Prominence in article;

Hook Appeals to Wide Audience;

Hook is Cited & Neutral;

No Image;

~~QPQ status is unknown.~~ Addressed

REVIEW First Pass:

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Footlessmouse, Graeme Bartlett Please address the QPQ issue; if not required, please state as such. Thanks. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"}

Thank you @GenQuest: please note, this was my first ever nomination and so I am exempt from QPQ, I am sorry for not putting that there. You can verify with the tool in the sidebar that says DYK check. I also have done 2 reviews, but I am saving those credits for later as I am exempt for now and I can only use them once. Thanks again!!! Footlessmouse (talk) 06:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know. Good job. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 06:24, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

REVIEW Second Pass:

Article ready.

(Edit conflict) Hello Footlessmouse, and welcome to DYK! This article needs a little attention before it will be ready for DYK. It needs an opening statement that is comprehensible to the layman before plunging into the technical details. The lead should summarise the main text. The last sentence of the opening paragraph needs a citation and you will need to remove the "working" tag. Otherwise, it meets the DYK criteria of newness and length. The hook facts are interesting and cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:22, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: I believe I have addressed your concerns. I just expanded it from lead only a few days ago and forgot to include the intro bits into the detailed sections. I did not write the last sentence, I moved to talk page for now and hopefully original author can find a source for it when they are available. Thanks!!! Footlessmouse (talk) 06:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, it's looking better. Because it has received a tick, the nomination template will move to the "approved nominations" page, and in due course, someone will add the hook to a prep set and it will soon afterwards appear on the main page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but am wondering if you mean to say synthesized compound rather than synthetic compound in the hook? Yoninah (talk) 23:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: You can use eitheer one, a synthetic compound is one that has been synthesized. Footlessmouse (talk) 23:31, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Either way we can link to synthetic substance. Footlessmouse (talk) 23:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Footlessmouse: OK, thanks. But I wouldn't link it in the hook; it would create a sea of blue. Restoring tick. Yoninah (talk) 23:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Snider, Elliot; Dasenbrock-Gammon, Nathan; McBride, Raymond; Debessai, Mathew; Vindana, Hiranya; Vencatasamy, Kevin; Lawler, Keith V.; Salamat, Ashkan; Dias, Ranga P. (2020-10-15). "Room-temperature superconductivity in a carbonaceous sulfur hydride". Nature. 586 (7829): 373–377. doi:10.1038/s41586-020-2801-z. ISSN 0028-0836.
^ Service, Robert F. (2020-10-16). "At last, room temperature superconductivity achieved". Science. 370 (6514): 273–274. doi:10.1126/science.370.6514.273. ISSN 0036-8075. PMID 33060340.
^ Castelvecchi, Davide (2020-10-15). "First room-temperature superconductor excites — and baffles — scientists". Nature. 586 (7829): 349–349. doi:10.1038/d41586-020-02895-0. ISSN 0028-0836.
^ Chang, Kenneth (2020-10-14). "Finally, the First Room-Temperature Superconductor". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-10-17.

trihydrogen sulfide

In 2020 carbonaceous sulfur hydride beat the record set by lanthanum decahydride of about −20°C, and was inspired by trihydrogen sulfide, the previous record holder.

One of the DYK people rejected this statement. I have removed from the article so we can find citation for it before adding back, so as to avoid a citation needed template. Footlessmouse (talk) 06:48, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That was in the original Nature publication. Just about everything is referencable to that paper. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:32, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CH₈S or CHS₈

Hi. The infobox says the chemical formula is CH₈S, while the body says it's CHS₈. I am not subscribed to Nature, and thus I can't verify any of them; can anyone correct the incorrect one? —Biscuit-in-Chief :-) ^{(/tɔːk/ – /ˈkɒntɹɪbs/)} 16:02, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CH₈S and CSH₈ are equivalent. The chembox uses Hill notation. I put C and S first as the heavy elements in the body. I cannot see a CHS₈, that would not be a hydrogen rich substance, and almost certainly wrong. Since little is published on the structure, I could not put in a more structural denotation, eg CH₄•SH₂•H₂, or CH₃SH₅. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:14, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Snider, Elliot; Dasenbrock-Gammon, Nathan; McBride, Raymond; Debessai, Mathew; Vindana, Hiranya; Vencatasamy, Kevin; Lawler, Keith V.; Salamat, Ashkan; Dias, Ranga P. (2020-10-15). "Room-temperature superconductivity in a carbonaceous sulfur hydride". Nature. 586 (7829): 373–377. doi:10.1038/s41586-020-2801-z. ISSN 0028-0836.

[2] Service, Robert F. (2020-10-16). "At last, room temperature superconductivity achieved". Science. 370 (6514): 273–274. doi:10.1126/science.370.6514.273. ISSN 0036-8075. PMID 33060340.

[3] Castelvecchi, Davide (2020-10-15). "First room-temperature superconductor excites — and baffles — scientists". Nature. 586 (7829): 349–349. doi:10.1038/d41586-020-02895-0. ISSN 0028-0836.

[4] Chang, Kenneth (2020-10-14). "Finally, the First Room-Temperature Superconductor". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-10-17.

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trihydrogen sulfide

CH8S or CHS8

CH₈S or CHS₈