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On 4 February 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone to Capitol Hill Occupied Protest. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Title

Shouldn't this article be at Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone? CHAZ is the name by which it is best known and the focus of the article, as indicated by the opening sentence.128.151.71.8 (talk) 17:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - moving. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 23:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be some technical limitations so take it up with WP:Requested Moves LegalSmeagolian (talk) 23:08, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Capitol Hill Organized Protest#Names for the area and Talk:Capitol Hill Organized Protest/Archive 5#Requested move 4 February 2021. However, due to Talk:Capitol Hill Organized Protest/Archive 5#Recent move: Organized vs. Occupied, I think that I will make a request at WP:RMT for a title change to Capitol Hill Organized Protest. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 14:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

Where in heck did this flag come from. Never seen it in my life. No source. 2601:642:C481:4640:3584:72B0:8DA0:4774 (talk) 08:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like PLATEL uploaded the flag image. Can you shed some light on this? Doing some quick Google web and image searches, I couldn't find anything suggesting this is their official flag, although that could also be my poor Googling skills. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it's from their website. There is a source (https://web.archive.org/web/20201209051316im_/https://capitolhillautonomous.zone/chaz.png) PLATEL (talk) 20:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense. Thanks. (Also here's a link to their homepage in 2020: https://web.archive.org/web/20201224213508im_/https://capitolhillautonomous.zone/ ) –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given that this website heartily rejects the name change that the majority of the occupiers agreed to, it seems very unlikely that it is any kind ofrepresentative "official" website. I doubt the CHAZ/CHOP ever had such a website, given its chaotic nature. Nothing about it was "official." I think this is another case of the wikipedia syndrome of editors desparetely trying to assign "official flags" to anything vaguely resembling a polity, regardless of how dubious the source may be. I think of Ryukyu kingdom, Austro-Hungary, etc. I guess y'all do this cuz an infobox with no pictures is boring? But please remove. It is not an "official flag" at all. 2601:642:C481:4640:B8CE:973C:CF6D:BD07 (talk) 21:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hm. If this website is not related to CHAZ/CHOP in any way, then I have no problem with removing this flag from the infobox. But considering that I see this same flag on other CHAZ related things (like this), then I think we can keep this flag as a flag to basically represent CHAZ in maps and other things. CHAZ definitely didn't have an official flag and definitely didn't have an official website, since it was some kind of decentralized community, but this flag is already being used as a customary. PLATEL (talk) 22:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that map was pretty clearly only made the way it was because the flag was already in this article 2601:642:C481:4640:B8CE:973C:CF6D:BD07 (talk) 22:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

in fact, the website homepage explicitly says " I am one person, I do not speak for CHAZ, and I am NOT there right now." So how in fuck is this an "official site" or an "official flag?!" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:c481:4640:b8ce:973c:cf6d:bd07 (talk • contribs)

Please be nice. We're volunteers. We won't be very motivated to talk to you or fix this if you cuss at us or have an unpleasant attitude. –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you have my sincere apologies. i am also a volunteer, and i was frustrated with a common un-scholarly habit i see on this site. but i should not have been rude about it. 2601:642:C481:4640:FC2B:C309:DE59:B200 (talk) 09:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries at all. I fixed it yesterday in this edit –Novem Linguae (talk) 09:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be merged with the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone article

This article and the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone article should be merged. They do not contain substantially different information and the acronym for CHAZ actually redirects to this page.

see other article here: https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Autonomous_Zone 136.27.45.145 (talk) 01:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone redirects to Capitol Hill Occupied Protest, so I only see one article. Is there a second article somewhere that I'm missing? If so please link to it. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:09, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That other article is on the Simple English Wikipedia, which, in being supposed to use simpler English to describe events, is deliberately separate from this one. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 13:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus for title

@StAnselm: At the time of the closure of the move discussion, consensus seemed to be in favor of the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest title. However, in the section below it, two out of the three editors who had replied to the move request in support made the case for instead using the Capitol Hill Organized Protest title. In the move discussion, no argument was made that would support the use of the former title over the latter. Therefore, I think that consensus would support a move of this article to Capitol Hill Organized Protest. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 17:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, you would need to start a new move discussion per WP:RM. St Anselm (talk) 05:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would be nice to get it back to CHAZ (what it started as...who has the street sign that was hoisted up? that would be nice to have and kept safe somewhere for the city) anyway, it was rebranded CHOP when the media et al started to show up in real numbers. It's a shame. Gusbenz (talk) 16:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Protect Article

I recently made drunken edits to this article. Glad they were fixed. How can we ensure this article gets a lock and is protected. I have some photos from that time I'd like to upload but first I think we need to get the article protected? Gusbenz (talk) 16:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]