Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Ohio

data by county table collapsed by default

That table is huge, and I suspect most readers aren't using it. Can we make it collapsed by default? —valereee (talk) 12:02, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

• It is the first thing I look at, and exists for each state. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 18:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
  • You look at the county data? Are you mostly interested in your own county? —valereee (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
    • Absolutely. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 14:21, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
      • I don't have a strong opinion on it, but to me it seems like something taking up that much space would be more helpful to more readers if it defaulted to collapsed, and people looking for the info on their county could just uncollapse. There are just so many graphics in this article that it feels like they're interfering with nav. Maybe others will chime in. —valereee (talk) 17:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
        • Graphics are good. The things I want to know when looking at this article are "Are things getting better or worse? How does my neighborhood compare to the rest of the state?" Words are less helpful than graphics to represent trends in either time or space. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 17:59, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ohio into COVID-19 pandemic in Ohio

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We don't have impact articles for any other U.S. state that I'm aware of, and "impact" is an extremely broad/nebulous term. Everything can be handled in the main Ohio article. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:15, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• Support I've seen most local articles about COVID-19 incorporate the impacts into the main article, unless it starts to bloat the article. The Ohio impact article doesn't seem large enough to be it's own standalone article. CaffeinAddict (talk) 04:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support As per above. Other state level articles have sections on impact on education and sports. Oliveleaf4 (talk) 09:46, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support Should never have been split off in the first place. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 14:16, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done, based on the above and this thread. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:05, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Reflist is broken

I'm trying to figure out why the reflist no longer works on the article. I believe the problem originated with this edit. I'm guess there is a tag issue. --David Tornheim (talk) 01:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

The problem is in the 2020 section. --David Tornheim (talk) 01:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

• If you open the editor, the notice says this page is a member of seven hidden categories including
• Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded
• Apparently, this includes the code from the template for cases by date (which is kind of big) and cases by county. i don't know a solution. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 02:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Twopower332.1938: That might be it. I tried to do various deletes of code in a binary search in my sandbox to see if I could get the problem to go away.

I was able to do that, which is why I believed the 2020 section was where the error was.

I was able to get it to go from failing to not failing with this edit.

This was the code removed:

<ref name=xyz>{{cite web|url=https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards|title=Ohio Coronavirus Dashboard|last=|first=|date=|website=Ohio Department of Health|url-status=live|archive-url=|archive-date=|access-date=9 April 2020}}</ref>

Possibly the word "Dashboard" is a problem.

But when I tried adding that code by itself to a very small sandbox[1], the reflist worked fine, so there's more to it.

Also, I tried some other variations of deleting sections that did not include that code (e.g. [2]) and that also seemed to fix the problem.

So I'm inclined to agree with you that it might be caused by some maximum size being exceeded and these deletes of any section might fix the problem.

I'm going to take a break. Feel free to look at what I was doing in the my sandbox to try to isolate the problem. If you can't figure out what I was doing I can try and explain or document each test and tell you what the results were.

We can always take this to a technical board and ask them if they can figure it out. --David Tornheim (talk) 03:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Twopower332.1938: The problem seems to be fixed--with nearly all of recent versions--some the versions I'm almost sure failed last night. But some of the older versions I identified above still do still fail (e.g. [3]). Any idea why? I don't think any of the change you made to this page are the cause.

Seems like some very temperamental code! I can think of two bugs like this that were very difficult to track down from bizarre intermittent failures. One was caused by failure to initialize a variable, which meant it's default value was whatever was in dynamic memory. The other was when an input pin on a processor was floating. --David Tornheim (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Do you think we can track down the template that is causing the problem you mentioned? We might be able to join up with other editors one other pages that use the same template(s) and see if we can get the editor(s) maintaining those template(s) fixed. I don't use the visual editor, but I might try. I think again a binary search would help identify it. --David Tornheim (talk) 18:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

It seems the reflist is fixed, for now, but the navboxes at bottom seem to not show up. There is probably still an issue with Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded Twopower332.1938 (talk) 19:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Twopower332.1938: I think you're right. I looked at another COVID state article and saw similar funky behavior. Any clue which template is the problem? I might start searching for it later tonight. --David Tornheim (talk) 05:41, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@David Tornheim: I removed the following line and things worked perfectly. Unfortunately, it seem kind of critical to the whole article. {{stack|clear=right|{{COVID-19 pandemic data/United States/Ohio medical cases chart}}}} Twopower332.1938 (talk) 22:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@Twopower332.1938: Did that remove the Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded error? --David Tornheim (talk) 22:58, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@David Tornheim: yes, it did remove tht warning. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 23:41, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/United States/Ohio medical cases chart transcludes 914,164 of the 2,097,152 byte limit, or about 44% of the include-byte limit. Although this is the only article transcluding that template, I assume that substituting that template into this article would not be a popular choice as having it on a separate page makes it easier to edit. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

...and the problem keeps getting worse every day as another new line of data is added. – wbm1058 (talk) 00:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Wbm1058:@David Tornheim: Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded lists several other states where this must be the same issue. I don't think the editability would be too much of an issue if the table was included in the article. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 00:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I noticed that the template only shows the most recent 15 days of data. This edit to comment-out the older data reduced the transcluded bytes to just 975,645 – well inside the 2,097,152 byte limit. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Looks like a cure to problem. I don't object. Maybe leave a note at Template talk:COVID-19 pandemic data/United States/Ohio medical cases chart explaining what is going on. Twopower332.1938 (talk) 01:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I doubt that including the daily chart inline would fix the issue. The bytes would still be there, but coming from the main article. The limit isn't in the amount of data to include, but in the total size of the post-include page source. BTW, when viewing an old article version, templates still pull in their current versions. This explains why old versions of the article are also suddenly broken. Also note, this will soon be a problem affecting almost every article that uses the cases chart! EphemeralErrata (talk) 02:37, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Deaths by vaccination status

I found this very interesting and informative, but wasn't sure how to include it. Any suggestions? —valereee (talk) 14:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

• Maybe just after this paragraph in the header, and with a similar format:

As of December 7, 2021, Ohio has administered at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine to 6,824,317 people, or 58.38% of the population, completed vaccination for 6,261,891 people, or 53.57% of the population, and administered additional doses to 1,912,939 people.

Twopower332.1938 (talk) 16:02, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

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