Talk:Brandon Tsay

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WP:BLP1E?

Don't we think this is a WP:BLP1E thing? Valereee (talk) 00:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't. Seems like he is notable for intervening in crime, and then being invited to the presidential event, and then setting up a fund. Noting the three criteria that must be all met for BLP1E to apply, I actually don't think either of the three are met, but especially it seems unlikely that he will remain low profile at this point (criteria 2). CT55555(talk) 00:05, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, the invitation and the fund are inextricable from the intervening in a crime. Maybe other people will have an opinion. I kind of think if he continues to get attention, we can always create the article. This is still very, very recent events. Valereee (talk) 00:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree they are linked. But most biographies on wikipedia are people who are notable for distinct but linked events. Most notable people don't get there by being notable for multiple unconnected things. I anticipated this question and it was what I considered before changing this from a redirect to what it is. I don't wish to dominate and hope others will opine, so at risk of repetition, criteria 2 of BLP1E requires that the person is "likely to remain, a low-profile individual." In the context of global media interviewing him and Joe Biden, Gavin Newsom and Judy Chu all meeting him, to say BLP1E applies is to asses that he is currently low profile (I disagree) and he will remain low profile (I disagree) and criteria 1 and 3 both apply too (I disagree). CT55555(talk) 00:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of us can predict whether he will remain high-profile, which is why I like to wait until we know. But, meh. It's nothing horrible about him, so we can wait to see if others have an opinion. I'll tag it. Valereee (talk) 00:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think he warrants a standalone article. All that needs to be said can be covered in the shooting article. Once a bio article moves into parents' heritage and job seeking, it is obviously struggling for meaningful content. WWGB (talk) 02:07, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's early days, but I suspect his profile will go the same way as X González and David Hogg. The BBC source referencing his "fame" is helpful here, and if this were to go to AFD I'd be a Weak Keep !vote on what we have now. If merged, he deserves his own section in 2023 Monterey Park shooting with a MOS:BOLDREDIRECT. —Locke Cole • t • c 17:58, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts on the BLP1E criteria:

1. If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event. Questionable, he mainly was covered in the context of the shooting, however, he was also invited to the State of the Union address and was interviewed by major news sources.

2. If that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual. Interviewed by major news sources and had interviews with major politicians, so doubtful to me.

3. If the event is not significant or the individual's role was either not substantial or not well documented. Played a major role in the mass shooting event, in disarming the attacker in Alhambra.

Natg 19 (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]