Talk:Bob Jones Sr.

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This article needs a great deal of expansion to do justice to a major religious figure of 20th century America. In particular:

Political views

Theological assessment

Other books dealing with Jones

I agree, I will attempt to add more information. J.B. 02/01/2006

Under 'religious views' there was the statement that the 'Bob Jones Creed harmonized with the Apostles Creed and the Nicene creed'

I don't understand this statement. Bob Jones creed fails to mention the Humanity of Christ -- it fails to mention that Christ came to earth for the salvation of man (forgiveness of sin is not the same as salvation) It fails calls Christ the SON of God, but it fails to mention that christ IS God -- and the same sort of God as the Holy Spirit. Both the Apostles creed, and Nicea mention the Church.

I deleted the 'harmonized' statement -- because the creed I see is wholely different. Bob Jones's creed is closer to the private Creed of Arius than it is to Nicea. http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds2.iii.i.ix.html?highlight=private,creed,of,arius#highlight

OK. What I should have written is not that the BJC creed "harmonized" with the traditional creeds but that it was not out of harmony with them. When you deleted the "harmonized" statement, you left a sentence that didn't make any sense. I hope this attempt is clearer. --John Foxe 10:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keeping the Joneses straight

Just a reminder that there are three Bob Joneses associated with Bob Jones University. Make sure that you know the difference between them.

John Foxe 12:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Racism?

Bob Jones Sr. seems to have some rather nasty opinions. I think this stuff ought to be included in the article...

This might very well be a quotation of one of the Bob Joneses, but it should have a solid, paper citation before being posted. The Washington Post article cited by your on-line source says that some such commment was made in the 1960s by Bob Jones III, the grandson of Bob Jones, Sr. Like I said, it's important to keep your Joneses straight. --John Foxe 18:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Beyond merely accepting funds from the Klan, it has also been shown that Jones actively campaigned for Klan-backed political candidates in the 1920s (see Glenn Feldman, Politics, Society and the Klan in Alabama: 1915-1949). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.60.41.15 (talk) 22:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chapel Sayings

Anyone else think the list of 'Chapel Sayings' would be better off in wikiquotes than here. Usually wikipedia tries to avoid having a long list of quotes from the subject.harlock_jds 20:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Political and Social Views

This american evangelical was also a supporter of eugenics.Agre22 (talk) 22:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)agre22[reply]

Not true. American evangelicals at the turn of the twentieth century generally opposed the eugenics movement because it was derived from Darwinism.--John Foxe (talk) 23:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Public Preaching

The article states: (In Zanesville, Jones pounded the pulpit so hard that he broke it.)

This is a technical inaccuracy. While the word "pulpit" has perhaps come to reference the thing upon which a preacher's Bible and/or notes might rest, a "pulpit" is actually something that someone, the preacher, *stands* on or in, i.e., the platform. What Jones, Sr. broke was properly called the "desk." [Vaughn Hathaway]

OK, Vaughn, I've substituted a quotation from the Zanesville reporter—but I bet what Jones broke was not an "altar" either.--John Foxe (talk) 20:04, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Reynolds Davis Jones

"John" -- You cite that Jones' official biographer, R. K. Johnson, made an error in Jones Sr.'s name. Where is your citation that this is an error? I have read your reference to the speech on Lawrence Reynolds' father, but that does not conclusively prove that "Robert Davis Reynolds Jones" is the correct order. What other citations do you have? It seems very unlikely that the official biographer would get his subject's name wrong. Dan Turner, too, cites Jones Sr.'s namesake to be Alex's Confederate army buddy. So if you are correct that Jones Sr. was named after a country doc, you need to provide some more evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cklewis (talk • contribs) 15:25, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johnson entitled the section on BJ's naming, "Robert Reynolds Davis," a three-page chapter consisting largely of imagined memories of Alex Jones being wounded at Chickamauga, a story intended to allow Johnson to introduce Jones's "brave friend in battle," Robert Reynolds. But Alex Jones's unit, the 37th Alabama, didn't fight at Chickamauga, and on his application for a Confederate pension, Alex gives the location of his wounding as "Mill Creek [Gap]," a later skirmish in what today is Dalton, GA. Furthermore, when Johnson provides the name of the attending blind physician, he calls him "Dr. Dick Reynolds" instead of Robert Davis Reynolds (107). Johnson's account is simply untrustworthy in this regard—and Dan Turner cites only Johnson and repeats his errors, probably with a similar assurance as yours: that the official biographer could not have gotten his subject's name wrong. (By the way, you can sign your posts by typing four tildes.)--John Foxe (talk) 16:04, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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First-person narrative

In this IP's edit, we got this first-person narrative:

Bob was treated as a son by my great grandparents. My grandmother regarded "Uncle Bob", as I was instructed to call him., as her brother. I met him one summer when he visited my grandparents. He always had to see his old bedroom, which I liked to use when visiting mt grands.

I don't know if anything can be done with it, lacking sources, but perhaps some more appropriate edit can be made. Dicklyon (talk) 02:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm writing a scholarly biography of Jones and would be very interested in this contributor's recollections if they'd like to write me an email.John Foxe (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

THIS ARTICLE

Reads like something a high school freshman would write. 2600:1005:B1C1:F92F:0:38:AC82:2701 (talk) 16:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And the language is obviously that of someone pro-Jones. 185.58.164.47 (talk) 10:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]